Economists Urge Scotland to Vote No......

CLAPTON

hugoshavez wrote: »

The question of the next Scottish Parliament declaring itself sovereign was (sort of) raised by the 76 year old Jim Sillars, who only came out of retirement to have some fun during the referendum, and is now enjoying winding people up on twitter.

It's not bad for a chuckle.

https://twitter.com/NaeFear

not sure whether he is simply a wind up merchant, but he provided some extra troops in the better together hour of need

ruggedtoast

Salmond is a busted flush. A fallen demagogue.

His army of dolites, pie eyed children, economic illiterates, anglophobes, and drunks failed to even amass support of even 40% of the eligible electorate.

There is no mandate for independence in Scotland and the assertion that the movement is growing is laughable.

Alex Salmond has had 307 years to prepare for an independence vote, he got it and he lost. Now it's time for the Yes crew to just move on with their lives and stop complaining.

noodle_doodle

Salmond lost because of three things: content (lack of), tone, chasing the wrong voters

content (lack of): No currency plan, eu promises turned out to be balls, not thinking about the effect on business, hell, not thinking about the effect on people. What about trident, defence, nato, fishing rights, passports, government departments, the absolute arseache of administration it would cause: Yes: errrrrr, scaremongering! Sticking their fingers in their ears and hoping something will happen later, maybe westminster would do it for them

and then there's the tone: constantly blaming westminster/england, saying he'd default on debts (that'd get the uk's vote on eu membership :-p ), spurring on his hectoring acolytes - first online and then in real-life - vandalising posters, mobbing murphy/farage/robinson etc, the same acolytes who are now crying foul and pushing grievances against anyone they think voted against them - the old, the english, people with actual jobs etc. This is basically because they got the swivel-eyed socialist worker mob on side, sheridan and fox's troops, who make a lot of noise and scare the normal people.

PS winning the online twitter war of numbers worked out for yes didn't it

chasing the wrong voters: YES started off basically telling the tories and the english to !!!! off. That was 25% of the vote lost straightaway. They then tried to get the votes of people who were too lazy to vote. Tales of packed yes shops, registering 97% of the electorate, RIC going round various schemes and getting 80% support... none of this matters if on the day these are the 15% of people who can't be arsed voting, and given the turnout was lowest in yes areas and highest in no areas that appears to have come and bit them on the !!!!

So there you have it, why the Yes was lost

noodle_doodle

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

To be fair we all pay for that anyway through the price of goods and services, so abolishing corporation tax and replacing it through income tax wouldn't make much difference to the total amount people pay in tax.

The thing that grinds me about income/corporation tax is that income tax is taken off me before I pay my bills, mortgage, food etc, and what I've got left I get indirectly taxed on anyways - vat, alcohol etc - with businesses it's the other way round, they only get taxed on what they have after they've paid out for all that stuff...

Generali

Nah. The reason Yes lost is because Scots, like the English, Welsh and Northern Irish understand that they are better off in a strong and prosperous United Kingdom.

ruggedtoast

Maybe Shakey, Zagubov, Sss5 et al will be along to explain it all in a minute. They had so much to say up until Thursday teatime I cant believe that they have all run out of things to offer now.

Conrad

Fear won the day just as it will in the EU referendum. Anyone would think all those prosperous independent nations were hell holes withering on the vine.


Bovine group think takes over.


In time localism and independence will once again become valued concepts, for the time being the sheeple aren't ready.

.string.

Pragmatic Scottish Patriotism won the day, wielded by those who were not taken in by fairy tales.

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

In time localism and independence will once again become valued concepts, for the time being the sheeple aren't ready.

Baa!

We are a tiny area less than 250,000 square kilometres where the furthest distance anyone has to be from their elected government is a few hundred miles.

Just how close do we need to be to our elected leaders for maximum effect?

danothy

Conrad wrote: »

Fear won the day

I think it's rude to the Scottish people to suggest that they were scared into voting no.