Child benefit tribunal help

jayII

moodycow2 wrote: »

I have worked full time for the last 30years, never claimed jsa before.
so when I hit a low time in my life you think im a scrounger.
sorry for trying to take care of my kids.


my advice to any parent with more than one child is get at least one of your childs CB in your name because believe me you need to.

Me too, full time and more, including whilst being the main carer for the children (hubby worked long hours, and we had no family to help, so I did what I had to), though I did claim JSA for 7 months back in the '80's when I was 16/17. I used the humiliation of those 7 months to spur me on to work and study hard, so I could achieve a decent salary.

The UK is full of people who have worked full time for many years. It doesn't mean they're entitled to claim JSA and not look for a full time job, unless they have a newborn or health issues, or similar.

moodycow2 wrote: »

thanks for the advice
but I can not claim csa because I don't have cb book
this was just a scenario to prove to people that who ever has the cb book owns the children
so ex can earn 10,000 a week and I cant claim a thing


so if ex earns £500 a week gets cb and working tax credits and family tax
im employed but on minimum wage
ex can then get csa involved just to rub salt into the wounds


plain and simple
all im trying to do is make people aware of this situation.

No such thing as cb book, they haven't existed for at least 10 years.

If your ex had worked/studied hard and achieved a job paying £500 a week (or more), why wouldn't you be happy for her happy and for your children who will benefit from her income?

Why not use your free time to research jobs and improve your skills, so that you can aim for a well-paying job, instead of complaining about 'your entitlement' from your ex's money and from everyone else's taxes?

moodycow2

it was only a scenario not what is happening

moodycow2

how many of the people who commented on this thread claim either
1. working tax credits
2. family tax credits


please answer truthfully

iammumtoone

I claim child credits and working tax credits as I am a single mum and the parent with care, like your ex my son is with me more nights than he is with his father. Unlike your situation I provide the meals for my son when he is with me on my nights and buy all his clothes and school trips. You don't seem to grasp this is how it works if your ex won't let u have them more nights then you need to take them back for their tea and stop being an unpaid childminder and paying for everything.

Compared to a lot of fathers you are lucky you are in a position be to able to do this you have a court order to say you can see your children so she cannot stop contact over it.

seven-day-weekend

parryhotter wrote: »

I think they should be able to claim CB for 1 child each. It sounds to me like its just mum being selfish.

I do too. I have thought having read all through the thread. They are both the parents, have shared care, why should only one parent get the child-related benefits? They should share those too.

FBaby

It is so obvious that this is nothing to do with what is best but a vandetta against the ex. You are frustrated because ultimately, you didn't get what you wanted, which is an easy life, getting the tax payers to support you not working. She probably is unwilling to consider your request because she knows that the second you get CB, you will get go to csa for maintenance and she will be worse off than you in the end.

This thread if real is so depressing, two parents battling with each other for who can claim the most benefits rather than work to support their children. And before you get back at me, I was a single mum of two children, both at nursery and then primary school, worked full-time and got no maintenance from the children's father, so yes, I do know very well what it is like and yes, you can work full-time and still be a very good parent, one that teaches your children the value of hard work.

Housing_Benefit_Officer

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I do too. I have thought having read all through the thread. They are both the parents, have shared care, why should only one parent get the child-related benefits? They should share those too.

Because only one parent or carer can claim the benefit. Those are the regulations.

moodycow2

I have a shared residence order. (shared)
The court order is a guide not written in stone and there should be progression in the amount of contact I have with my children.
Most of you are saying give the children back at tea time, this is not progression this means I will lose contact time with my children.
The times I have the children are around her work pattern so in reality there is no one to look after them.
All I am asking for is the CB for one child (that's all) and like many of you on here be eligible to claim WTC.
I have paid out over £20,000.00 to get a shared residence order so I can be part of the children's life's. I am not a absent parent and I certainly don't want to be on jsa .
So really I would have been better of saving my money and become a McDonald's dad at the weekend
Yes I might be a doormat as someone stated but the children need their father as much as I need the children.
Its not about two parents battling with each other its about the children having two homes were both parents can look after them equally.

All im asking is
Is this fair

Caroline_a

moodycow2 wrote: »

I am a father of 2 children ages 8 &11, In April 2014 I gained a shared Residence order (bitterly contested). Where I have my children 2 nights a week and a equal split in school holidays.
I am looking for advice/help in gaining one of the child benefit books.
My Ex has the CB for both kids and will not give me one of the books despite that in real terms I feed the children more than her.
I am currently on JSA (single person allowance) but because of the times I pick up the children from school it is unlikely I will ever be offered a job.
I cannot apply for part time work and WTC as I do not have the CB book, I cannot apply for CSA from my Ex as I don’t have the CB book, I cannot apply for Income support because I am not deemed a sole carer and again I do not have the CB.
I have applied to IR but they have refused twice hence I am now appealing to be heard at a tribunal.
Does anyone have any information on case law, , focus groups or anything that may assist me.
Many Thanks

The 2 words in red above stood out for me like beacons. I feel so sorry for these children - the adults are scrapping like a pair of toddlers and in the meantime the kids have to go backwards and forwards between each residence pretending as if it's normal.

I did the 'shared care' with my youngest daughter for 12 months prior to moving away from the area. At the time I thought it was a good idea - I have since changed my views. A couple of years later it came up as part of a discussion with my older daughters how my youngest had disliked it, felt that she had no proper base ('room of her own' was how they said she had described it), despite the fact that she saw both parents equally. It seems that it would have been better to be spoilt by dad at weekends if that's how it has to be.

OP, stop wingeing and get over yourself. Start putting the children first, think how much better a role model you will be if you get a job, pay for yourself rather than letting the government pay for you. If your ex is being obstructive, just take the higher moral ground. After all, you're doing this for your children...... aren't you???

Housing_Benefit_Officer

moodycow2 wrote: »

I have paid out over £20,000.00 to get a shared residence order

The solicitor must be laughing all the way to the bank. They love people like you. I think most solicitors don't want to resolve things as quickly and cheaply as possible but want confrontation so they can 'grow' the case and increase the costs and with you they found a perfect meal ticket. I assume there were lots of hearings before the final hearing? I won't even ask about mediation before litigation. Looks like you are using your children as nothing more than a way to get more benefits and using the court order as a weapon to batter your ex.