talliwillow, my response to your circumcision thread

reheat

poppyscorner wrote: »

My son had a urine infection at four months old he had to go back to hospital for 3 different types of tests one of these was to put a tube up his penis and feed some dye through it to see if any flow back would occur to his kidneys he was about 6 months old and he screamed the place down they said he has a very tight foreskin they couldn't get it back he screamed the place down and after three attempts and me leaving him with my mum while I left the room in tears I stopped it and he had to go back a second time fortunately they were sucessful first attempt and he had the test done but they said there is a possibility he will need to be circumcised but they said they will wait till he gets older it still wont go back but I don't want him circumcised if he has too then he has too but I'm not happy about it my second son seems OK but only 18wks so not too sure

Even then they don't always need to remove it, can sometimes just slit it and once it all heals up - problem solved. Surgeon may only be able to decide during the operation.

melancholly

frivolous_fay wrote: »

(and all those smear tests I had were pointless :rolleyes:)

smear tests are really really important still! they pick up early changes in cells before it becomes a full blown cancer. it isn't 'prevention' as such, it means that any abnormalities can be picked up really early and treated easily. it's mroe like really early intervention - screening doesn't ever stop a disease from happening like a immunisation would, but it's vital to make sure that treatment can occur at the earlist possible stage.

maypole

I watched a TV documentary a few years ago. A new born baby boy was being circumscised without anaesthetic, by a Rabbi. I wish to this day I had not seen it, it was harrowing. The roughness with which this baby was treated and the pain it must have endured was just indescribable. Apparantly at the age he was , the brain was not able to cut off the pain sensation after a while, so, as far as I am concerned this baby was tortured for religious reasons.

If they must be circumcised, let it be done in hospital and pain free!

taxi97w

balmaiden wrote: »

I have read this thread and the previous one and I have probably missed it, but if this "disgusting bit of hanging skin" is so useless ........

and the foreskin is a bit useless also:D

keelykat

Why was the other thread closed/taken off?

keely.

Curious_George_2

keelykat wrote: »

Why was the other thread closed/taken off?

keely.

because some people cant have a debate like an adult without needing a knicker unbunching operation afterwards :rolleyes:
dont worry Keely, you didnt miss anything worth reading.

[Deleted User]

I was getting ready to whip out some more biblical quotes. It's even more amusing when I consider myself an atheist orthodox jew

Curious_George_2

ringo_24601 wrote: »

It's even more amusing when I consider myself an atheist orthodox jew

really? im a p!ssedup-testicostical

westernpromise

I am pretty sure that circumcised blokes get more BJs. If true, it's a bit of a clincher.

I've heard of women recoiling in horror from an uncircumcised chopper but never the other way round.

I wonder if the Hoff has been done? He looks like he needs it.

margaretclare

ringo_24601 wrote: »

I was getting ready to whip out some more biblical quotes. It's even more amusing when I consider myself an atheist orthodox jew

I don't understand what you mean by an 'atheist orthodox Jew'.

This reminds me of an ear-bashing I had from my bro-in-law soon after our marriage in 2002. He said to the effect that 'his bro had been married 3 times, he hadn't been to any of the weddings, and he couldn't have come to our wedding because it was in church, he's a committed secular Jew, and it's against his principles to enter any church'.

Tactful as ever, I forbore to mention that he hadn't been invited to our wedding in any case. Yes, it was in church, and his bro, my husband, has since become a church member, was baptised and confirmed in his 70th year.

I still do not understand what bro was talking about. I have a vague idea that it's something to do with ethnicity as opposed to religion, and I understand that because I'm an ethnic Englishwoman. Religion, as I've always understood it, is very much a personal decision and personal commitment. You make the commitment yourself when you're old enough to understand. However, there are some religions where they say you're 'born' into it and deciding to be something else makes you an apostate for which you can be killed.

Ringo, I was brought up on the Old Testament, in my generation we learned chunks of it in primary school and I still love the 17th century language of the King James' Version. I can still recite you the speech of Ruth to her mother-in-law Naomi 'Intreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee....'

Kind regards

Margaret