Need help with ticket from UKPC LTD..Please :)

make-me-a-winner

Hi Guys

I got a ticket on Saturday for parking in a visitors car park visiting a mate, The car park is free but there were no "official lined" spaces left but there is space for a car at the end which is where I parked and where I see numerous people park.

This is a new housing development so it's yet to be completed, also lacks visitor car parking. which is being brought up in a meeting my mate has to attend soon.

Anyway I come to my car and found the ticket on my windscreen it's from UK Parking Control LTD.

They want £100 or £60 if paid within 14 days.

I'm not paying these mugs anything!

I've read the stick for noobs but it's just going over my head and wondered what part actually is for me, I'm reading it but nothing is going through .

Your expertise on this would be very grateful

If you need any more information let me know on here.

Thanks

Umkomaas

First off, make no contact with the PPC until you receive a Notice to Keeper in the post in the timeframe day 29 to day 56 following the date of your parking incident.

So you've got a good bit of time (1 to 2 months) to get yourself up to speed on this. Please start that process by reading the NEWBIES sticky at the top of the forum index. It will take a bit of time to assimilate things, and you may need a few passes for it all to gel. No need to read the totality of the sticky, for the moment you just need to read its post #1 (how to deal with a PCN) and its post #2 which explains the various acronyms you will need to know.

The more you understand what all this stuff is about, the more you will be able to deal competently with it.

By the way, UKPC are not the most difficult outfit to deal with in PPC world.

make-me-a-winner

Umkomaas wrote: »

First off, make no contact with the PPC until you receive a Notice to Keeper in the post in the timeframe day 29 to day 56 following the date of your parking incident.

So you've got a good bit of time (1 to 2 months) to get yourself up to speed on this. Please start that process by reading the NEWBIES sticky at the top of the forum index. It will take a bit of time to assimilate things, and you may need a few passes for it all to gel. No need to read the totality of the sticky, for the moment you just need to read its post #1 (how to deal with a PCN) and its post #2 which explains the various acronyms you will need to know.

The more you understand what all this stuff is about, the more you will be able to deal competently with it.

By the way, UKPC are not the most difficult outfit to deal with in PPC world.

Hi,

Thanks for the speedy reply Umkomaas.

So I wait for the NTK to turn up at my house. Does that mean I forfeit the early payment of £60 encase I lose?

Also it says on the ticket:

UK parking Control LTD will request the registered keepers details from the DVLA/DVA should the Parking charge remain unpaid after 28 days.

So I'm thinking they don't have my address as it is at the moment.

You said:
By the way, UKPC are not the most difficult outfit to deal with in PPC world.

I'm taking that this is a good thing and they are easy to get out of paying?

Sorry the Noob thread is so difficult to navigate though with many different font's and font sizes it's getting jumbled in my head.

bazster

make-me-a-winner wrote: »

So I wait for the NTK to turn up at my house. Does that mean I forfeit the early payment of £60 encase I lose?

You will not lose.

make-me-a-winner wrote: »

Also it says on the ticket:

UK parking Control LTD will request the registered keepers details from the DVLA/DVA should the Parking charge remain unpaid after 28 days.

So I'm thinking they don't have my address as it is at the moment.

Correct, but they soon will have.

make-me-a-winner wrote: »

You said:
By the way, UKPC are not the most difficult outfit to deal with in PPC world.

I'm taking that this is a good thing and they are easy to get out of paying?

Correct.

make-me-a-winner

bazster wrote: »

You will not lose.



Correct, but they soon will have.



Correct.

Thanks Bazster!!

I will do anything in my power not to give these MOFO'S any money!!

So i just sit and wait and don't worry until the letter comes through right?

bazster

Exactly, sit and wait. And don't worry at all: you will not be paying!

make-me-a-winner

Thanks Guys!!

Already made me feel good

Coupon-mad

It's easy:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5051412

This is what newbies do all the time, no thread, no help, and UKPC often just drop cases when they see the template appeal from the newbies thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4911394

Post #6, read the newbies' confirmation that the templates work.

make-me-a-winner

I have received the NTK yesterday, dated: 30/09/2014.

They have a photo of my car but all you can see in the picture is my numberplate haha the rest of the image is black! so not really proof i parked outside the bays...

anyway.. what's next?

Hot_Bring

make-me-a-winner wrote: »

I have received the NTK yesterday, dated: 30/09/2014.

They have a photo of my car but all you can see in the picture is my numberplate haha the rest of the image is black! so not really proof i parked outside the bays...

anyway.. what's next?

Use the template appeal in the Newbies thread to appeal to them.

You could add a point that you deny parking outside the bays and that their photographic evidence they have supplied clearly doesn't show you parking outside the bays.

make-me-a-winner

Hot_Bring wrote: »

Use the template appeal in the Newbies thread to appeal to them.

You could add a point that you deny parking outside the bays and that their photographic evidence they have supplied clearly doesn't show you parking outside the bays.

I logged on to the site to see the rest of the pics and you can't even see the bays! If needed i could post the pictures they took on here?

Actually looking at the pics you can see one white line on the right of my car that's about it

So to make it clear:

I would nee to send this template reply:

Bloggs PPC
Anystreet
Anytown

Dear Sirs

Re: PCN No. ....................

I refer to the above notice which I challenge, not as driver but as keeper of the car, on the following grounds:

a). The sum sought does not represent a genuine pre-estimate of any loss and yet it is intended as a deterrent, so the charge is a penalty.
b). The signage on site is deficient, the wording unclear and it fails to comply with the Code of Practice.
c). In the absence of any evidence it is my case that you lack any or sufficient proprietary interest in the land.
d). Your notice was deficient and fails to comply with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.

This is my formal representation. There will be no admissions as to who was driving that day and no assumptions should be drawn in the absence of evidence. I have decided to appeal this as keeper and as such, you must either rely on the POFA 2012 or you must cancel the charge if you know you cannot claim keeper liability in this case. Please uphold this challenge or send a rejection letter, so I can escalate this matter to the independent appeal service offered by your Trade Body.

Yours faithfully


{the registered keeper's name}

ADD A SQUIGGLE IF POSTING IT - NO NEED TO USE A REAL SIGNATURE



Thanks Hot Bring.