The cheapest way to call from a landline

I'm confused about something in the latest Martin's Money Tips:

"5. The cheapest way to call from a landline.
....
- Calling UK landlines.
Peak calls via current cheapest, Cheap Calls, cost 0.5p/min + 15p connection. Via BT it's currently 9p/min + 15p connection."

I currently pay 18185 0.0p/min + 5p connection. What am I missing?
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  • csj_2
    csj_2 Posts: 100 Forumite
    Like polymaff, I was also surprised not to see 18185 listed on the cheap calls section in the most recent MSE Tips.

    I also use 18185 successfully at the 5p connection and then zero pence per minute (for inland landline calls). This beats the Cheap Calls at a cost of 0.5p/min + 15p connection by a long way.

    The quality of the calls via 18185 isn't always as good as using BT directly but most of the time I have no problems.
  • polymaff
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    csj wrote: »
    Like polymaff, I was also surprised not to see 18185 listed on the cheap calls section in the most recent MSE Tips.

    I also use 18185 successfully at the 5p connection and then zero pence per minute (for inland landline calls). This beats the Cheap Calls at a cost of 0.5p/min + 15p connection by a long way.

    The quality of the calls via 18185 isn't always as good as using BT directly but most of the time I have no problems.

    Yes, puzzling. BTW I did have trouble with 18185 some months ago with no outgoing audio. I noticed others reporting the same thing. Hopefully it is a thing of the past. I had a 2h09m chat with a pal yesterday. Cheap Calls cost would have been 50p. With 18185 it was 5p. Their (Finarea) calls to mobiles offering* is quite good, too, 15p + 1p/min - the same as CheapCalls - so why does MSE seem to ignore Finarea's products and concentrate on CheapCalls'?

    *. http://www.0844calls.co.uk
  • Heinz
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    polymaff wrote: »
    Their (Finarea) calls to mobiles offering* is quite good, too, 15p + 1p/min - the same as CheapCalls

    * http://www.0844calls.co.uk
    Callers not using a BT landline should be very wary though, many other providers charge considerably more than BT for calls made via 0844 access number.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • polymaff
    polymaff Posts: 3,946 Forumite
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    Heinz wrote: »
    Callers not using a BT landline should be very wary though, many other providers charge considerably more than BT for calls made via 0844 access number.

    V. Good point. That's one reason why I use, for the line, BT plus Line Rental Saver then for the calls, Finarea products.
  • oldharryrocks
    oldharryrocks Posts: 533 Forumite
    edited 27 August 2014 at 8:57PM
    polymaff wrote: »
    V. Good point. That's one reason why I use, for the line, BT plus Line Rental Saver then for the calls, Finarea products.

    Make Hay while the sunshines. BT can now block access to indirect numbers like 18185 etc if they want to.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4778004
  • Ypaymore
    Ypaymore Posts: 2,802 Forumite
    edited 28 August 2014 at 5:08AM
    polymaff wrote: »
    I'm confused about something in the latest Martin's Money Tips:

    "5. The cheapest way to call from a landline.
    ....
    - Calling UK landlines.
    Peak calls via current cheapest, Cheap Calls, cost 0.5p/min + 15p connection. Via BT it's currently 9p/min + 15p connection."

    I currently pay 18185 0.0p/min + 5p connection. What am I missing?

    Yet in the Callchecker they do give 18185,1899,and 118866 as the cheapest for 01/02/03 calls. http://callchecker.moneysavingexpert.com/ukcallchecker/landline/daytime/bt/easy

    However they are not the cheapest for 03 calls as they now charge 3p a minute plus connection.
  • polymaff
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    edited 28 August 2014 at 9:30AM
    Ypaymore wrote: »
    However they are not the cheapest for 03 calls as they now charge 3p a minute plus connection.

    Assuming your "they" refers to 18185, I can't see a difference between 01, 02 and 03 for 18185 charges with any of Callchecker's landline suppliers, and I can't see any supplier who charges 18185 for 03 numbers at 3p per minute..

    http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/files/2010/01/numbering.pdf

    Incidentally, I was going to check my latest 18185 bill, but their website, today, says "Your account has been blocked for security reasons. Even if you enter the correct details today you still cannot access your account. Please wait until tomorrow and try again."

    It's all a conspiracy :)
  • Ypaymore
    Ypaymore Posts: 2,802 Forumite
    edited 28 August 2014 at 9:35AM
    polymaff wrote: »

    No.:D

    All Ofcom are saying is the 030 part of the 03 range are allocated to the Govt/Charity Sector etc. They are still charged the same as other 03 numbers and should normally be included in inclusive minutes.

    18185 etc charge 3p a minute plus connection to call all 03 numbers eg 0333,0345 etc their website is misleading as it mentions only 030.

    See thread here: http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1406627607

    Also here : https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5026200
  • polymaff
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    Ypaymore wrote: »
    No.:D

    All Ofcom are saying is the 030 part of the 03 range are allocated to the Govt/Charity Sector etc. They are still charged the same as other 03 numbers and should normally be included in inclusive minutes.

    18185 etc charge 3p a minute plus connection to call all 03 numbers eg 0333,0345 etc their website is misleading as it mentions only 030.

    See thread here: http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1406627607

    I clipped out that 030 comment whilst you were writing - but the Ofcom pdf I linked to is quite clear about charging for 03. Like I said, 18185 won't let me look at my charges today.
  • Ypaymore
    Ypaymore Posts: 2,802 Forumite
    edited 28 August 2014 at 9:46AM
    polymaff wrote: »
    I clipped out that 030 comment whilst you were writing - but the Ofcom pdf I linked to is quite clear about charging for 03. Like I said, 18185 won't let me look at my charges today.

    As you will see in the long thread people have tried to find out why 18185 charge more to call 03 numbers but get no response.

    I have a 18185 account and i have just tried to call my bank,s 0345 number and they say they no longer support calls to 03 numbers.
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