Pregnancy and Neighbours Car Horn

Tropez

missbiggles1 wrote: »

So we're all wrecking our health by using alarm clocks? Seriously?

Several scientific and medical studies have concluded that there are negative consequences involved in the use of bell alarm clocks and suggest more natural or subdued alternatives are beneficial to both short and long term wellbeing. You can do with that information what you will.

duchy

Tropez wrote: »

Oh I know pregnancy is quite a normal function, but being woken every day by sudden jarring sounds is not normal. It may well have no effect on the pregnancy but it could have an effect on the mother.

Indeed -it might wake her up .....just like an alarm clock.....or a c0ck crowing.......or the postman knocking on the door with a package or letter to be signed for. Do you feel alarm clocks should be banned ? How about posties or our feathered friends?

The poster was expressing concern that the pregnancy might be harmed -you appear to agree this is not the case but other than that I'm not sure what your point is ?

Tropez

duchy wrote: »

Indeed -it might wake her up .....just like an alarm clock.....or a c0ck crowing.......or the postman knocking on the door with a package or letter to be signed for. Do you feel alarm clocks should be banned ? How about posties or our feathered friends?

The poster was expressing concern that the pregnancy might be harmed -you appear to agree this is not the case but other than that I'm not sure what your point is ?

If you wish to discuss this I'm happy to do so. If, however, you're going to continue with ludicrous strawmans then you're wasting both our time with further responses.

My point is that there is strong evidence from actual experts that the situation being experienced by his wife could have some implications and thus being so dismissive as many on this thread have been isn't particularly fair. People can be correct to be concerned about something but incorrect about the reason for that concern. I believe this is the case with the OP.

As I happen to have an actual sleep disorder I tend not to be so dismissive toward this subject. That is all.

Indie_Kid

Tropez -- do you have a link to this evidence?

Buzzybee90

Totally not on before 7.

Pregnancy isn't really the problem in my opinion, no one wants to be woken up.

I can't understand the mentality of doing something so selfish to be honest. Then again my cars horn is ridiculously loud!

Tropez

Indie_Kid wrote: »

Tropez -- do you have a link to this evidence?

I'm posting on my tablet at the moment so tracking down specific studies is inconvenient.

However, here's a few links detailing some of the things I've mentioned
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/your-alarm-clock-may-be-hazardous-to-your-health-164620290/
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/true-false-alarm-clock-affect-health/story?id=14730219 - short link but specifically cites the Japanese study.
https://www.smartlivingnetwork.com/living-healthy/b/extreme-existence-is-your-alarm-clock-hurting-your-health/ - cites sudden awakening problems
http://sleepdisorders.about.com/od/howcanisleepbetter/f/Alarm_Clock.htm - general unhealthy aspects about alarm clocks.
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART03226/Alarmed-in-the-AM.html

That'll do for now as my tablet isn't very good for copying and pasting links on.

jetplane

I love how some of these threads develop :rotfl:

Of course sleep deprivation can have detrimental effects, which is why repeatedly waking someone is used as a form of torture. There are numerous studies on how sleep deprivation contributes to stress, obesity, diabetes et al.

However we are talking about a woman who is woken once at 6.30 am, it is predictable and the effects can possibly be lessened by using earplugs. A woman (and partner) who are very likely going to need to get used to being woken at all hours, unpredictably with loud sudden noises, notably a baby's cry which cant be ignored.

lulu_92

I think regardless of the pregnancy and the scientific evidence produced in this thread that OPs neighbour is genuinely being a pain.

I think we can give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't think of others before OP approached him. To continue to be disruptive and intentionally make more noise is unacceptable.

I would say do as others do and ring his doorbell at 3am but it won't solve anything. I would ring your local PCSO as they can help and advise you.

For me 6:30 isn't early as that's when I'm up and about anyway, but at my old job I was working weird hours so to be disruptive at that time would have irked me big time. We can't generalise and say that 6:30 is a reasonable time because for a lot of people it isn't.

I really hope you get this sorted out and I hope your partner has a very happy and healthy pregnancy

AndrewB3

again thanks for the replies, this is my first time posting on this board. Do threads always go off on a tangent?

I get what a lot of you are saying that 6:30am isn't that early, and I would usually agree, but only because it isn't relatively early to when I wake up. However it is relatively early for others, and when you are pregnant and waking up 3 times a night anyway, you could really do without the 4th time at 6:30, when the sun is out and getting back to sleep is difficult.

We have decided to see if he keeps doing it and persists over the course of next week. I am hoping he just wanted to prove a point today and do enough so that he is content that he has won whatever willy waving contest he has dreamt up in his head.

If it persists after this, then in his mind it is obvious that he believes it acceptable to use a horn to say goodbye, therefore I am to assume that it is acceptable for me to do the same when I leave for work (3am). Maybe actually experiencing being woken up daily at a time that is relatively early for him will make him see the error of his ways.

It is a completely ridiculous situation, but as I've said, by the time anything would be done by council etc, we'd have moved. I completely disagree with the people who are suggesting that it is just left alone and to just accept that some people are !!!!!!. These types of people and situations only arise because people do nothing and just leave it. In my opinion doing nothing is the worst possible advise you can give someone in a situation like this or similar.

If someone is breaking the law and willingly and purposefully infringing on your right to happiness and a quiet life while doing so, then you should do something about, the only decision for me that needs to be made is what you do about it. A view that has been reinforced after an increased continuation of the honking after our polite request that it stops.

CH27

AndrewB3 wrote: »

again thanks for the replies, this is my first time posting on this board. Do threads always go off on a tangent?

I get what a lot of you are saying that 6:30am isn't that early, and I would usually agree, but only because it isn't relatively early to when I wake up. However it is relatively early for others, and when you are pregnant and waking up 3 times a night anyway, you could really do without the 4th time at 6:30, when the sun is out and getting back to sleep is difficult.

We have decided to see if he keeps doing it and persists over the course of next week. I am hoping he just wanted to prove a point today and do enough so that he is content that he has won whatever willy waving contest he has dreamt up in his head.

If it persists after this, then in his mind it is obvious that he believes it acceptable to use a horn to say goodbye, therefore I am to assume that it is acceptable for me to do the same when I leave for work (3am). Maybe actually experiencing being woken up daily at a time that is relatively early for him will make him see the error of his ways.

It is a completely ridiculous situation, but as I've said, by the time anything would be done by council etc, we'd have moved. I completely disagree with the people who are suggesting that it is just left alone and to just accept that some people are !!!!!!. These types of people and situations only arise because people do nothing and just leave it. In my opinion doing nothing is the worst possible advise you can give someone in a situation like this or similar.

If someone is breaking the law and willingly and purposefully infringing on your right to happiness and a quiet life while doing so, then you should do something about, the only decision for me that needs to be made is what you do about it. A view that has been reinforced after an increased continuation of the honking after our polite request that it stops.

He's behaving like a twit! Why would you want to lower yourself to his level?