Housing/neighbour issue

tomtontom

Top_Girl wrote: »

They are playing football, with the full backing of every other neighbour I've spoken to and the local Police who have told me in no uncertain terms that they're not causing a nuisance, they don't swear, brawl, spit or enter into Amy of the antisocial behaviour that some kids round here sadly think is acceptable.

My son cried his heart out when the neighbour came out, stick swinging and using the vilest swear words out there as he simply isn't used to it.

I can assure you my family is not the antisocial party in these incidents.

But if your neighbour was posting this they would no doubt say there are not antisocial either! I am not saying either party is, with only one side of the story no one is in a position to make such a judgement.

Top_Girl

tomtontom wrote: »

Given your last post it seems the playing out is not in itself the issue, it directly relates to your son. Could there have been an altercation in the past between them that you are not aware of, something that triggered these incidents? This is something the HA can speak to him about, and then bring you together to discuss how to get along better.

My son would have told me. Maybe not instantly and I'm not saying it would have been an unbiased account to begin with, but he can't hold his own water, never has been able to.

Considering my son is 9 and we've been here since he was 6 months old, I would hope that if there was an issue, they would approach me directly and not him (and not in a swearing, spitting, stick swinging threatening manner as he did recently).

Buzzybee90

I can't say my friends and I ever played in the road, though my road is more a deserted country lane so we had more places to play. However, the noise of children and a football being kicked could get quite tedious - though he's only 9 so I should imagine this doesn't go on into the evening? Why don't you and the other parents take turns on taking them to the playing field? I really don't think children should be playing in the road and have never witnessed it (I now just in a city suburb)

Top_Girl

tomtontom wrote: »

But if your neighbour was posting this they would no doubt say there are not antisocial either! I am not saying either party is, with only one side of the story no one is in a position to make such a judgement.

In this environment, you're only going to get one side of any story though.

These are facts (you only have my word for these, but there is nothing I can do about that):

1. Neither myself or my son have ever sworn at, spat at or waved a stick at this man.

2. Out of fifteen other houses that are on the street side of this grass, I haven't had one single complaint.

3. Of these fifteen houses, six of them have happily provided their details for the LA/Police/ASBO team.

4. The Police/ASBO team have advised my family are not in the wrong.

5. He was told specifically after the last time he came here kicking off, not to approach myself or my son directly and to contact the Police directly. I have the PPCSO who dealt with him last time coming on Friday morning to take another statement.

Top_Girl

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

I can't say my friends and I ever played in the road, though my road is more a deserted country lane so we had more places to play. However, the noise of children and a football being kicked could get quite tedious - though he's only 9 so I should imagine this doesn't go on into the evening? Why don't you and the other parents take turns on taking them to the playing field? I really don't think children should be playing in the road and have never witnessed it (I now just in a city suburb)

He's in at 7 and bathed, read with and in bed by 8 every night, whether he has played out or not. As it's the holidays, he has a DVD until 9. He's not allowed to play out until the afternoon anyway as I'm aware my neighbours directly at either side work shifts, so 1pm is the earliest he can play on the street.

The grass is set back from the road, which is incredibly quiet traffic wise. My son has road sense.

We frequently do take them out to parks etc, he certainly isn't out every night, 2-3 per week at the most and only ever in the spring/summer. He spends 2/3 weekends with his father as well as a couple of weeks over the summer holidays, he's there now and will be until Friday night.

fivetide

Sounds like you are doing everything by the book. Hopefully his complaint will show him up for what he is, a nuisance, and he'll be told to stop.

Top_Girl

fivetide wrote: »

Sounds like you are doing everything by the book. Hopefully his complaint will show him up for what he is, a nuisance, and he'll be told to stop.

Thank you, I do try.

Fingers crossed!

pollypenny

I'm with most of the posters, Top girl. Children need to be out playing, as we all were as children.

As long as they are not on the guy's land or out late he is being a miserable git. Reminds me of one family near us years ago who always complained about the children playing in the quiet road. I think it was because she wanted quiet to entertain the builders when her husband was at work!

Emeralda sounded extremely judgemental, by the way.

marisco_2

Top_Girl wrote: »

he loathes "council estate scum".

Bloke sounds a few cards short of a full deck to me. What a cheek he has looking down on people, and forming negative opinion of them based solely on where they live. All whilst seeing nothing wrong with behaving in an aggressive and intimidating manner toward his neighbours, and swearing at young children to boot.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

pollypenny wrote: »

I'm with most of the posters, Top girl. Children need to be out playing, as we all were as children.

As long as they are not on the guy's land or out late he is being a miserable git. Reminds me of one family near us years ago who always complained about the children playing in the quiet road. I think it was because she wanted quiet to entertain the builders when her husband was at work!

Emeralda sounded extremely judgemental, by the way.

My direct ex nextdoor neighbor bordered harassment against me and my kids a few years back, they blocked off a fire escape/communal lane that ran behind our houses because the kids would play on their bike up and down it, (safer than using the street), they made several reports against me and my kids some were blatant lies, like when my kids (3 at the time) were supposedly making noise at 12am playing outside when infact they were over at my mums house for sleep overs, it was agree'd to go to mediation but they cancelled it.


Our HA was going to transfer them to a new build bungalow not far away from us, but the site was mixed with families young and mature, so the HA decided that it would not be suitable accommodation for them due to the amount of issues they complained of with me and my family and some others in the street, they were offered a secured 1 bed flat in a new independent living secure OAP complex to which they declined so our HA told them either stay as you are or find yourselves alternative accommodation, they moved out not long after the cancelled mediation appointment, to an area worse than mine, the last I heard from word of mouth form someone I know in the area is that they are on their final warning before eviction because they have caused allot of issues with their neighbors who are mainly single parents in a flat complex they moved into.


they spread so many lies about us in my local village they even told my nan (they didn't know she was my nan) about me and when my nan asked them who is these people causing them so much trouble they mentioned my name and my kids names to her, my nan instantly knew they were talking about her grandson and G-granddaughters and put them straight, and others on that bus just gasped in amazement being pulled on a lie they told.