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The Mail gets dirty

The_Deep
The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
edited 30 July 2014 at 8:11AM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
For the third day in a row the Mail pillories the private parking industry, and the NHS is coming in for much of their fire, Aintree Trust deserves a special mention, and the world and his dog now know of Roxburghe's dodgy past, poor doddering old Michael Sobell will not appreciate the publicity either.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2710175/Hospitals-send-parking-bully-boys-hound-sick-grieving-NHS-spends-cash-dodgy-debt-collectors.html.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2710215/NEIL-HERRON-We-saw-rogue-clampers-Now-let-s-purge-parking-ticket-pirates.html

Anyone now taken to court only needs to show the judge these articles and the PPC will have more of a mountain to climb than they do already, it must surely also be building up a head of steam for Their Lordships to overturn the Beavis decision.

There is an election soon so expect lots of noise from putative MPs anxious to fall in with public opinion. I bet that all three parties will include parking reform in their manifestos.

We live in interesting times!
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  • Nick_C
    Nick_C Posts: 7,625 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Home Insurance Hacker!
    The Mail have been campaigning against private parking enforcement contractors for a long time. They campaigned against clamping on private land. As a result, people who have no right to can now park in the visitors bays where I live, and there is no longer any effective action we can take against them.

    Drivers. If you don't want to be ticketed, don't park where you are not meant to. Simple.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 30 July 2014 at 8:04AM
    I have exactly the same problem Nick with two of my rental properties. One Porsche owner with a 63 Plate monopolises a visitor space, every time I visit and have to park in the street I am tempted to key a large "V" (for visitor) on his shiny bonnet, perhaps one day when I am in a bad mood ...

    We have installed a rising bollard at another property and put up warning signs, which seems to have worked.

    Moral, do not rent property to riff raff.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Chriswt
    Chriswt Posts: 36 Forumite
    Nick_C wrote: »
    The Mail have been campaigning against private parking enforcement contractors for a long time. They campaigned against clamping on private land. As a result, people who have no right to can now park in the visitors bays where I live, and there is no longer any effective action we can take against them.

    Drivers. If you don't want to be ticketed, don't park where you are not meant to. Simple.

    Surely clamping someone because you want the space kept clear for visitiors is counterintuitive ;)

    For cars that park in visitors bays when they shouldn't there are plenty of ways residents can deter repeat offenders.

    I remember getting a parking ticket in 2000 outside Brighton University. The fine was quite annoying but nowhere near as annoying as the hi-tac A4 size sticker placed on the driver’s side window which took forever to remove and came off in stamp sized chunks.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 30 July 2014 at 8:16AM
    For cars that park in visitors bays when they shouldn't there are plenty of ways residents can deter repeat offenders.

    Actually, there are often very few or none at all. I am coming to the conclusion, in one property that I own, that self-ticketing is the way to go.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Chriswt
    Chriswt Posts: 36 Forumite
    The_Deep wrote: »
    For cars that park in visitors bays when they shouldn't there are plenty of ways residents can deter repeat offenders.

    Actually, there are often very few or none at all. I am coming to the conclusion, in one property that I own, that self-ticketing is the way to go.

    I'm not so sure as if I were Mr 911 I would find this quite annoying:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAR-VAN-WHEEL-CLAMP-SAFETY-LOCK-FOR-CARAVANS-/190733953088?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Safety_Security&hash=item2c68a12840#ht_3760wt_1005

    Or just use the 'polite notice' sticker method. After having to scrape off the 10th sticker he might reconsider his parking habits. ;)
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    The DM Is putting the information out there, it is up to the general public to take heed. Unfortunately there is a large section of society who tend to denigrate everything the DM publishes.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    The_Deep wrote: »
    The DM Is putting the information out there, it is up to the general public to take heed. Unfortunately there is a large section of society who tend to denigrate everything the DM publishes.

    I agree. 2nd highest circulation in the UK (top is the Sun) yet Guardianistas with a circulation of 13% or the 14 Independent readers think that their right to sneer should be given precedence.

    Luckily, any article in the Mail will reach a higher audience.
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Nick_C wrote: »
    The Mail have been campaigning against private parking enforcement contractors for a long time. They campaigned against clamping on private land. As a result, people who have no right to can now park in the visitors bays where I live, and there is no longer any effective action we can take against them.

    Drivers. If you don't want to be ticketed, don't park where you are not meant to. Simple.

    If the punishment fitted the crime, so to speak, it would be a different matter. But charging people £100 for overstays, incentivising the operatives who ticket motorists on a payment by results basis is not the way forward.
  • Nick_C
    Nick_C Posts: 7,625 Forumite
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    Guys_Dad wrote: »
    Incentivising the operatives who ticket motorists on a payment by results basis is not the way forward.

    I think parking wardens should be paid by results. Illegal street parking in my area is widespread and hazardous.

    Personally, I've never had a parking ticket. Perhaps because I don't park illegally?
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