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Wireless Monitor For When Baby Falls Asleep In Car?

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  • societys_child
    societys_child Posts: 7,110 Forumite
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    I have never yet seen a car spontaneously set fire, while turned off
    So . . 'cos you've never seen it, it doesn't happen?
    Are you that idiotically stupid? Never become a risk assessor
    Could answer that, but I wont . . .
  • greeneggs_2
    greeneggs_2 Posts: 26 Forumite
    Personally I think there are other risks that are more likely.

    Over heating is quite a high risk if you're not there to check the temperature. Depending on the age of the child there are risks to breathing and airflow from not being flat and a risk of vomiting and then choking (this is why children are supposed to be laid flat in their beds)

    There's a risk of them waking up and being distressed while you're not there to notice - I suppose this is the reason for the request for the monitor though.

    If you're going to sit and stare out of the window the whole time you might as well be sitting in the car!
  • topdaddy wrote: »
    Eaxatly that. Remove child from car,risk drops to zero.
    No such thing as zero risk, just managed risk

    House can catch fire, could be burgled.. child could go into a temper tantrum because they've been woken and injure another child or themselves.

    No such thing as no risk. But a child in a car is still a very, very low risk
  • meer53
    meer53 Posts: 10,217 Forumite
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    First child - 27 years ago - slept on his front on a lambskin, weaned at 14 weeks, now a strapping 6'2". Since then, the advice is to put them on their backs and under no circumstances use a lambskin.

    Second child - 14 years ago - premature weighing just 3lbs. In Neonatal unit in an incubator for 4 weeks. Yup, on her front on a lambskin.

    It's ok being an educated Mummy, but sometimes, Mummy knows best.
  • greeneggs_2
    greeneggs_2 Posts: 26 Forumite
    meer53 wrote: »
    First child - 27 years ago - slept on his front on a lambskin, weaned at 14 weeks, now a strapping 6'2". Since then, the advice is to put them on their backs and under no circumstances use a lambskin.

    Second child - 14 years ago - premature weighing just 3lbs. In Neonatal unit in an incubator for 4 weeks. Yup, on her front on a lambskin.

    It's ok being an educated Mummy, but sometimes, Mummy knows best.

    I'm sure you're aware that all of the evidence shows that placing babies on their front leads to an increased risk of SIDS, and early weaning leads to an increased risk of digestive and allergy issues later in life.

    The fact that your children were ok doesn't disprove these. It's like saying, "I never look in my blind-spot when I pull out and I've never had an accident." It doesn't take away the idea that looking in the blind-spot is less risky behaviour.

    The guidelines for early childhood are based on risk analysis carried out by people who have far more access to data than the average member of the public has.
  • topdaddy_2
    topdaddy_2 Posts: 1,408 Forumite
    So, i'm swapping the minuscule risk of spontaneous auto-mobile inciniration for a guaranteed grumpy toddler, who may go on to get himself in trouble, or hurt his sibling; because he's not had a proper rest.

    Risk is < 0.03% on an annual basis (assuming child left in car at all times, and that i've got a car in 'average condition'). It's probably balanced by the risk of the child being in the house and the possible things that could happen to them (and i've had one take a tumble down the stairs whilst in my wife's arms.. so I know that stuff can happen ANYWHERE)

    Thats only one risk reduced to zero in my example but all car related risks are reduced by removing the child. Where as with your 0.03(three :hundred in betting odds) thats the risk of the car catching fire. Then add the risk of say a car crashing into it, then add the risk of a handbrake failing, then the risk of littun oveerheating then....etc etc. The odds ( which are better than my last horse bet) are getting shorter all the time. My zero remains zero if the child isnt in the car.
  • meer53
    meer53 Posts: 10,217 Forumite
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    greeneggs wrote: »
    I'm sure you're aware that all of the evidence shows that placing babies on their front leads to an increased risk of SIDS, and early weaning leads to an increased risk of digestive and allergy issues later in life.

    The fact that your children were ok doesn't disprove these. It's like saying, "I never look in my blind-spot when I pull out and I've never had an accident." It doesn't take away the idea that looking in the blind-spot is less risky behaviour.

    The guidelines for early childhood are based on risk analysis carried out by people who have far more access to data than the average member of the public has.

    My daughter was placed on a lambskin on her front by the nurses in the neonatal unit. Not by me. That tells me a lot. I just don't believe ALL the evidence.

    With regard to the early weaning debate, we seem to have far more digestive and allergy issues these days than when there was no guideline as to when to wean your child.
  • wik
    wik Posts: 575 Forumite
    meer53 wrote: »
    My daughter was placed on a lambskin on her front by the nurses in the neonatal unit. Not by me. That tells me a lot. I just don't believe ALL the evidence.

    With regard to the early weaning debate, we seem to have far more digestive and allergy issues these days than when there was no guideline as to when to wean your child.

    With my 3 i tried to follow the sleep on back rule!! and as soon as all 3 could they rolled onto tummys and slept soundly...
    Also when my son was 4 weeks old the health visitor advised me to give him baby rice mixed with breast milk... and it was amazing! the child who was always hungry started to sleep and not grizzle all the time..
    As for never leaving a baby on its own!!! !!!!!!!! are parents to now give up thier lives and sleep in shifts so that someone is awake to watch over the baby!!!:doh:
    "Aunty C McB-Wik"
    "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"
  • moomoomama27
    moomoomama27 Posts: 3,823 Forumite
    wik wrote: »
    With my 3 i tried to follow the sleep on back rule!! and as soon as all 3 could they rolled onto tummys and slept soundly...
    Also when my son was 4 weeks old the health visitor advised me to give him baby rice mixed with breast milk... and it was amazing! the child who was always hungry started to sleep and not grizzle all the time..
    As for never leaving a baby on its own!!! !!!!!!!! are parents to now give up thier lives and sleep in shifts so that someone is awake to watch over the baby!!!:doh:

    Once babys can roll, there really is little you can do!

    My HV told me to feed my eldest baked bean at 4 months old, proves HV don't always know everything!

    Its not about not leaving a baby to sleep, it's about follow safe practise i.e back to sleep, in room for 6 months etc. The never leaving baby alone was referring more to the same building :rotfl:
  • hawk30
    hawk30 Posts: 416 Forumite
    meer53 wrote: »
    My daughter was placed on a lambskin on her front by the nurses in the neonatal unit. Not by me. That tells me a lot. I just don't believe ALL the evidence.

    With regard to the early weaning debate, we seem to have far more digestive and allergy issues these days than when there was no guideline as to when to wean your child.

    You've said that your second child was born 14 years ago. And while back to sleep was promoted then, it probably wasn't as understood as well. I really don't think that your anecdote negates current advice.

    And in respect of your comment on digestive and allergy issues, surely it's in adults that this rise (if there is one) is seen, adults who were probably weaned early, not babies who have been weaned according to current guidelines.

    If my LO has a baby, I will be advising her to follow the safe sleep guidelines that exist at the time. I will not be saying 'well in my day we did this', as though there can be no advances in medical knowledge.
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