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Wireless Monitor For When Baby Falls Asleep In Car?

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  • cliffsgirl
    cliffsgirl Posts: 369 Forumite
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    I have never yet seen a car spontaneously set fire, while turned off

    Are you that idiotically stupid? Never become a risk assessor

    My friends car went on fire last week it is now a burnt wreck. She pulled up at a friends car went inside and the car exploded. Luckily she didn't leave her baby in the car.
  • [Deleted User]
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    Holiday Haggler
    edited 30 July 2014 at 12:00PM
    Wow, there's an absolute epidemic of exploding stationary cars

    The most common cause of car fires is deliberate action - http://www.fireservice.co.uk/safety/car-fires, then poor maintenance. My car is 10 months old
  • hawk30
    hawk30 Posts: 416 Forumite
    duchy wrote: »
    However there are exceptions as not all babies are the same .
    A friend of mine was born at term and howled the hospital down - wouldn't sleep (this was in the days when Mums stayed a week in hospital after the birth as a matter of course). She was feeding well but simply didn't sleep and was inconsolable. An older midwife came on duty - and said "That child is starving- mixed some baby rice in a bottle and fed the child. Who then slept for 24 hours straight. (As an adult she was one of the most placid people I know so I don't think it was down to temperament)
    Against all advice - even back then - but was right for that particular child.
    New Mums tend to read the books like they are manuals and don't always consider that "the norm" is a huge range - and that despite many different ideas over the years -most things do work - just some suit some babies better than others.

    Baby possibly had reflux and there are now thicker/different formulas on the market for that. Or could have been a number of other things that could now be fixed and don't involve the risk of adding baby rice to a bottle, which is undesirable for a couple of reasons. I assume that the 'sleep for 24 hours straight' is an exaggeration too, as that is undesirable - newborns shouldn't go more than 4 hours without a feed and should be woken if they try to.

    My belief is that a parent, doing my best job involves doing my best to follow current guidelines, especially the ones that impact on safety (but I appreciate that all babies are different and parents' attitudes to risk varies).
  • topdaddy_2
    topdaddy_2 Posts: 1,408 Forumite
    Wow, there's an absolute epidemic of exploding stationary cars

    The most common cause of car fires is deliberate action - http://www.fireservice.co.uk/safety/car-fires, then poor maintenance. My car is 10 months old

    The one I see was less than two years old.
  • Georgiegirl256
    Georgiegirl256 Posts: 7,005 Forumite
    Wow, there's an absolute epidemic of exploding stationary cars

    The most common cause of car fires is deliberate action - http://www.fireservice.co.uk/safety/car-fires, then poor maintenance. My car is 10 months old

    So your car is 10 months old? What's that got to do with anything? It could still go up in flames due to an electrical fault or such like.

    Just because your unwilling to believe that these things could happen doesn't mean that they don't.
  • [Deleted User]
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    Holiday Haggler
    edited 30 July 2014 at 2:24PM
    So your car is 10 months old? What's that got to do with anything? It could still go up in flames due to an electrical fault or such like.

    Just because your unwilling to believe that these things could happen doesn't mean that they don't.
    I believe that my child is very unlikely to be snatched from an unattended hotel room. I believe my house is unlikely to be hit by lightning. I also believe my car is unlikely to spontaneously catch on fire (especially without showing obvious signs of overheating).

    I also know that my children have never burnt to death in a spontaneous car fire whilst left alone on the driveway outside of my house, within visible range of my sofa.

    In 2012-2013, the fire brigade attended 20,300 calls to fires in cars. There were 28.7 million cars on the roads in 2012. 65% of car fires are deliberate.

    so, lets say there were 7,105 non intentional car fires. That means that the incidence of non-intentional spontaneous car fires is 0.0247%. It's fairly amazing we have several posters that know of someone that this has happened to. Must be unlucky...

    Guess what - i'm going to take my chances on that one. They are far more likely to die in a road traffic accident on my way home to my driveway, than sat in an inert car.

    Grow some backbone people. Get some perspective on risks.
  • duchy
    duchy Posts: 19,511 Forumite
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    edited 30 July 2014 at 2:26PM
    Wow, there's an absolute epidemic of exploding stationary cars

    The most common cause of car fires is deliberate action - http://www.fireservice.co.uk/safety/car-fires, then poor maintenance. My car is 10 months old

    If your child was in a car that went up it wouldn't matter if it was common or as rare as could be. Your child would still be dead or burned and you'd know if you hadn't left the child sleeping in the car it wouldn't have happened. Why take the needless risk?

    You may not have a child snatched from an unattended hotel room but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened and before it did those parents had never had their child snatched in their absence either.......but I doubt that was much comfort to them when it happened
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  • If car spontaneous combustion is a risk, why would you ever drive in one? Many times I've sat in a parked car without the engine on, waiting for someone and i've never considered it may just set on fire.

    This is just about risk perception. I don't perceive my child sleeping in a parked car a risk. I would perceive sleeping my child in my own bed a risk, so I never did it.

    Its what you do as a parent - continual risk assess things. Is this food safe to eat? Am I ok to stop sterilising bottles now? Is their high temperature a need to seek medical attention?

    My measurement and assessment of risk will differ from yours. Get over it
  • topdaddy_2
    topdaddy_2 Posts: 1,408 Forumite
    In 2012-2013, the fire brigade attended 20,300 calls to fires in cars. There were 28.7 million cars on the roads in 2012. 65% of car fires are deliberate.

    so, lets say there were 7,105 non intentional car fires. That means that the incidence of non-intentional spontaneous car fires is 0.0247%.

    Grow some backbone people. Get some perspective on risks.

    Eaxatly that. Remove child from car,risk drops to zero.
  • topdaddy wrote: »
    Eaxatly that. Remove child from car,risk drops to zero.
    So, i'm swapping the minuscule risk of spontaneous auto-mobile inciniration for a guaranteed grumpy toddler, who may go on to get himself in trouble, or hurt his sibling; because he's not had a proper rest.

    Risk is < 0.03% on an annual basis (assuming child left in car at all times, and that i've got a car in 'average condition'). It's probably balanced by the risk of the child being in the house and the possible things that could happen to them (and i've had one take a tumble down the stairs whilst in my wife's arms.. so I know that stuff can happen ANYWHERE)
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