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Richard53

This thread started out interesting, but has become a total waste of time. I feel sorry for the OP.

F1F93

topdaddy wrote: »

You can ask. Sure.

I, and several others, have. Given you avoid the subject and refuse to say anything other than "they don't work like that", I must assume that you actually don't know what you're talking about and are being nothing other than a troll.

topdaddy_2

F1F93 wrote: »

I, and several others, have. Given you avoid the subject and refuse to say anything other than "they don't work like that", I must assume that you actually don't know what you're talking about and are being nothing other than a troll.

Great. The go to reponse for this forum. But think what you like, I care not. And assume what you like, somethings dont go the way youd like, "last chance" or not:wave:

F1F93

topdaddy wrote: »

Great. The go to reponse for this forum. But think what you like, I care not. And assume what you like, somethings dont go the way youd like, "last chance" or not:wave:

Yes, the go to response when someone says something controversial or disagrees with the majority for no obvious reason, and then refuses to justify or explain.

I gave you a chance, and was willing to listen to your argument, but how can I when you refuse to tell me? :rotfl:

topdaddy_2

F1F93 wrote: »

Yes, the go to response when someone says something controversial or disagrees with the majority for no obvious reason, and then refuses to justify or explain.

I gave you a chance, and was willing to listen to your argument, but how can I when you refuse to tell me? :rotfl:

Youve heard my arguement. Youve decided I need to justify it. Good for you.

F1F93

topdaddy wrote: »

Youve heard my arguement. Youve decided I need to justify it. Good for you.

I'm not the only one.


Just out of curiosity, why are you being so defensive and refusing to justify it? It's not exactly a big demand. In fact, it would have been easier in the first place to just explain rather than go through all this.

motorguy

topdaddy wrote: »

Youve heard my arguement. Youve decided I need to justify it. Good for you.

Your response to everything is "it doesn't work like that"

That's not an "argument", that's just taking a contrary viewpoint.

Explaining how you think it works would be your argument.

I think the problem here is you tried to be smart up front and now have been called on it, and you're just backed yourself into a corner rather than admit you're wrong.

topdaddy_2

motorguy wrote: »

Your response to everything is "it doesn't work like that"

That's not an "argument", that's just taking a contrary viewpoint.

Explaining how you think it works would be your argument.

I think the problem here is you tried to be smart up front and now have been called on it, and you're just backed yourself into a corner rather than admit you're wrong.

In the same way you havent explained that central heating thing earlier? Thats the way things goes some times

topdaddy_2

F1F93 wrote: »

I'm not the only one.


Just out of curiosity, why are you being so defensive and refusing to justify it? It's not exactly a big demand. In fact, it would have been easier in the first place to just explain rather than go through all this.

Its no hardship;)

Shielder

topdaddy wrote: »

No ones being obtuse, afterall your confusing matters with radiators( the non automotive kind) which bears zero relevance to, well anything. Are you going to argue thats not the case too? Seriously?
And the same for washing machine elements and central heating as a whole(granted not brought up by you)?

Ahah!!! We were right, he does think it's an electric heating element!:rotfl: (Just kidding TD )

Anyway, my analogy wasn't looking at thermostats or anything any more complicated that a heat source (boiler/engine) and the heating element (radiator/heater matrix). The heat source is on, the heating element is hot. The heat source gets turned off, the heating element stays hot because of the hot water inside it. How difficult is it to understand?

Try a kettle. You turn it on, it gets hot. You turn it off, it stays hot. As many people have said, it is latent heat. The heater doesn't instantly go cold because the water in it is still hot.

That was what the OP was asking before you confused matters. If they have the heater on, will it stay hot when the stop/start turns off the engine? No thermostats, no turning it on after the engine has turned off, it is already on and hot.

The heater matrix in this case is hot because of the engine coolant being pumped through it while the engine is running. After the stop start activates and turns the engine off, the water in the heater element stays hot and slowly transfers it's heat to the cold air being drawn in by the fans.

Once the heater element has cooled down (depending on the size of the heating element and the volume of air flowing over it) the engine starts again and hot water from the rest of the engine passes through the heater element and it gets hot again. This cooling cycle can take between 2 and 5 minutes, it is not instant.

There, hope that helps you understand how a car heater works.

Andy