Appeal Refused - What Now?

ColliesCarer

northseajoe wrote: »

Thanks Coupon-mad.

So, let me check I've understood this time... Summary.

1. There may be some possibility of some kind of a super-appeal at POPLA, though it's unlikely 'cos I didn't do my original appeal rigorously enough.

2. I can expect to be bombarded with debt-collection letters, which I robustly refute, then ignore.

3. [This is the bit I'm not sure of..]. Eventually I'll be summoned to Small Claims Court ?? or MCOL ??

Eventually - you MIGHT receive court papers for Small Claims Court

If the PPC decide to issue a claim they will probably use MCOL to initiate that small claim - if so papers would come from Northampton bulk centre

northseajoe

ColliesCarer wrote: »

Hi Joe,

There is a glossary in post #2 of the NEWBIES threads.

MCOL is Money Claim On-line - the governments on line service for initiating a court claim and perhaps needs to be added to the list.

PALS - Patient Advice an Liaison Services - as this is a general acronym relating to hospital services it wouldn't be included in a glossary for terms relating to parking tickets

Thanks Collies Carer. As Bazter said, I missed it 'cos it was hidden away right at the top of the thread, misleadingly labelled 'read this first'.

(blush)

arabesque_101

Was your appeal made as the "keeper" or as the "driver?" And was the keeper the driver? If the appeal was made as keeper, and the keeper wasn't the person who parked the car, then it is not too late for the keeper to nominate the driver. If this scenario applies to you let us know.

northseajoe

arabesque_101 wrote: »

Was your appeal made as the "keeper" or as the "driver?" And was the keeper the driver? If the appeal was made as keeper, and the keeper wasn't the person who parked the car, then it is not too late for the keeper to nominate the driver. If this scenario applies to you let us know.

My 'appeal' - or 'dogs breakfast' as Redx might describe it - didn't state whether I was the keeper or driver. I just didn't appreciate niceties like that when I sent the letter.

In fact, I am the keeper, and my wife was the driver. I think. I know the last sentence isn't helpful, but at the time of parking our minds were on other matters.

I'm pretty sure my loved one was at the wheel, but I obviously don't want to drop her in in it!!


Joe

northseajoe

Dee140157 wrote: »

You could. Contact you PALS for this hospital and get the it help in cancelling.

Ignore any debt letters, read newbie thread posts 4 & 5 to see what may follow.

Which PPC is it?

If it should go to court, the court unlike PCNs and POPLA will consider mitigating circumstances if appropriate. I strongly suspect should it ever get this far you would have a good case with a proper defence.

Regrettably, PALS weren't so pally after all: this car-park is outside the jurisdiction of the hospital, is privately operated, and the hospital have no relationship with the companies involved...

trisontana

So who hired the parking company, or did they just wander in off the street and starti issuing tickets?

northseajoe

Guys,

I really appreciate your help on this topic, and I know how annoying it must be if your advice and/or queries are ignored.

I will be away from home without internet access from this afternoon until next Monday, so if I don't reply promptly, it's not 'cos I'm ungrateful or given up; I'll be back next week.

Thanks again.

Joe

fisherjim

northseajoe wrote: »

Regrettably, PALS weren't so pally after all: this car-park is outside the jurisdiction of the hospital, is privately operated, and the hospital have no relationship with the companies involved...

Sounds like a get out excuse to me, so the NHS have sold off just the pieces of land with car parking to a private company?
I doubt it!
http://www.bedfordhospital.nhs.uk/upload_folder/bedford_uploads/publications/maps/bedford%20hospital%20map%20060114.pdf

Redx

well, as I see it the problem here is that you didnt mention not a gpeol and no contract in your popla appeal, so the assessor didnt consider them as they are not allowed to consider anything not mentioned, even if you would have won

the "super-appeal" cannot happen unless the assessor missed something or has ruled incorrectly, it appears they have done the job asked of them - to rule on your appeal

it appears this car park you parked on its not owned by the trust so they cannot intervene (I have read about one like this so this hospital may be the one I read about) if its the one I am thinking of there was some land further away from the hospital and somebody decided to make an extra car park and its not operated by the trust but its hard to see the "join"

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4263405

you cannot add those extra points to any new appeal so a "super-appeal" as you call it is unlikely to happen

if you find out who actually owns that land you could try appealing to them

CEL do issue MCOL (small claims) and have up to 6 years to do so , so you could fight your corner once an LBC and then MCOL arrives (which is likely with CEL in my opinion)

nb:- the small claims service has been going for many years, its how anybody can take another to court over unpaid bills etc , so not just parking invoices

northseajoe

trisontana wrote: »

So who hired the parking company, or did they just wander in off the street and starti issuing tickets?

Hi Trisontana

This is a patch of land directly opposite the hospital, but not (apparently) on hospital grounds. It is, annoyingly, adjacent to another car-park which IS run by the hospital.

Dunno who owns the land. It looks like it used to be the car-park of The Crown pub, which is now shut-down.

Joe