Petition

Jennifer_Jane

LittleVoice wrote: »

I do not believe that BB in every area of a care home (you'd have to include toilets, baths, as well as bedrooms) is the answer. It would not only survey those needing help but also those residents who are able to cope themselves.

CCTV has its uses but not 24/7 for everyone.

Perhaps this issue could be that CCTV is turned off in a room if a patient specifically requests it, and that someone outside of the Care Home assesses that they were under no pressure from the home to do so.


Re the toilet area, it doesn't have to actually show someone ON the loo, or in a shower. It could have sound on but directed into the area but not specifically at those actual points.

pineapple123

moremore wrote: »

Beatings, mocking,slapping ,manhandling and god knows what else they are doing in privacy, no dignity in that treatment. Not all carers are cruel but it is amazing how many are.
Also managers would be taken to task for not been proactive and letting it happen in homes they manager. Vulnerable people feel pain and cruel beatings should not be happening and must stop. The only way that is going to happen is for CCTV in residents rooms.

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...ial-homes.html

Sorry to be blunt but do you a have experience of working within the care sector. 'Its amazing' how many care staff are not cruel but kind with empathy.
I would most certainly welcome CCTV if I didnt think it infridged peoples right to privacy, dignity and respect when alot of this has been taken from them already.
Also would CCTV be just within a care establishment what about individuals own home with carers or relatives being abusive surely the same should apply within private houses.

I agree even one victim of abuse is one too many but CCTV is not the answer.

Errata

If CCTV isn't the answer to catching abusing care home staff in the act, what is the answer?

missbiggles1

Errata wrote: »

If CCTV isn't the answer to catching abusing care home staff in the act, what is the answer?

Better not to recruit staff that would do this rather than catch them in the act.

jewelly

Abuse of those in care has been exposed by concerned relatives putting cameras in place. Without those no-one might have found out what was going on. Cameras are a must in my view.

Errata

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Better not to recruit staff that would do this rather than catch them in the act.

Fair enough, how could that be achieved?

jewelly

Errata wrote: »

Fair enough, how could that be achieved?

They could be asked at the interview "will you mistreat our residents?", and if they say "yes" - don't give them the job.

Sorry - couldn't resist!

moremore

LittleVoice wrote: »

I do not believe that BB in every area of a care home (you'd have to include toilets, baths, as well as bedrooms) is the answer. It would not only survey those needing help but also those residents who are able to cope themselves.

CCTV has its uses but not 24/7 for everyone.

People that are able-bodies will have a choice and will not need any help with bath, toilet, also will be able to report abuse concerns. People that are not able to do this will benefit from CCTV and will keep them free of abuse.
All abuse so far has been taken by CCTV, nobody would have known abuse was happening and would still be going on if it was not recorded on CCTV. :mad::mad:

missbiggles1

moremore wrote: »

People that are able-bodies will have a choice and will not need any help with bath, toilet, also will be able to report abuse concerns. People that are not able to do this will benefit from CCTV and will keep them free of abuse.
All abuse so far has been taken by CCTV, nobody would have known abuse was happening and would still be going on if it was not recorded on CCTV. :mad::mad:

But the CCTV didn't actualy stop it happening, sometimes for quite a while.

tomtontom

moremore, I'm sure your intentions are good but it comes across that you have no idea about the social care system. The great majority of carers are not abusive, and will report anyone they suspect of wrongdoing. When abuse does occur it is more likely to be reported by colleagues than picked up by CCTV. You say CCTV should only be used where people are not able bodied, what about those with learning difficulties, should they be ignored? What about those people who receive care in their own homes?

I could go on but there is point as your suggestion is completely unworkable. That is probably why the petition has received so few signatures in the two years it has been active.