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  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    On second thoughts, I think you meant PN's porch might be PD, not your new house. :o

    I read that as PN was getting a Porsche. Definitely worthy of a posh alert.

    (goes off to find reading glasses)
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  • Doozergirl
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    michaels wrote: »
    So we looked at the house.
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-47341544.html?premiumA=true

    DG (or anyone else) think we could knock down the garage to the N and use it as access for a second detached property to the S and W of the existing with the plot split N/S into two?

    Is it the house in the very SW of the road?

    I'd have thought access from the rear - Merryfields, with the new dwelling facing into Merryfields as part of that sweeping curve.

    The obvious place for a house on the street the house is mainly on the next door neighbours land.
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  • Doozergirl
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    Wow :)

    I took one of DS's friends with us down to what we call the 'lakehouse' last week.

    On Saturday, we hired kayaks and then let the people hiring the house next door use them. They left me a bottle of wine with a note wrapped around to say thank you.

    Today, I've just been delivered the most mahoosive bunch of flowers and a bottle of wine from DS's friends mum, for taking him.

    Feels wonderful :)
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  • GDB2222
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    michaels wrote: »
    Is it definitely a case of planning permission needed, not permitted development?

    There's already been a large extension added, I think. At least that's how it looks from the photos. Does that affect permitted development?
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  • LydiaJ
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    There's already been a large extension added, I think. At least that's how it looks from the photos. Does that affect permitted development?

    It would affect PD on the house michaels has been looking at, but we now think he was actually wondering about PD for PN's porch, which doesn't apply because of a covenant on the property.
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  • GDB2222
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    Doozergirl wrote: »
    Is it the house in the very SW of the road?

    I'd have thought access from the rear - Merryfields, with the new dwelling facing into Merryfields as part of that sweeping curve.

    The obvious place for a house on the street the house is mainly on the next door neighbours land.

    My impression is that the only access from Merryfields is across the next door neighbour's driveway. Would they give permission? Especially as it would detract from their view across the large garden and they would have to put up with the noise and disturbance of the development.
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  • LydiaJ
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    edited 2 August 2014 at 3:34PM
    GDB2222 wrote: »
    My impression is that the only access from Merryfields is across the next door neighbour's driveway. Would they give permission? Especially as it would detract from their view across the large garden and they would have to put up with the noise and disturbance of the development.

    I think the very NW corner of the plot has about a driveway's width that borders on the road of Merryfields before the other house's driveway begins. To get access through there for a house that was level with the Merryfields house (ie in about the position of the existing shed, which is where I think you'd get least problems from overlooking) would be a bit of an odd angle, but might be doable.

    Then you could divide the plot with a line E-W and put the new house in the W bit of the S half, with its windows mostly facing E. The existing house would keep most of the N half of the plot, apart from having a bit carved out of the W edge of the garden to make the drive for the new house from Merryfields.

    I happen to know that planners get very fussy about new houses overlooking the gardens of existing houses. At least, the ones around here do.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • michaels
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    Yes - PN I thought might be PD because I think her door is on the end not the front hence not needing to build 'closer to the highway than the main elevation'. Not sure about covenants, can they be overcome simply via planning permission or are they separate from the planning process?

    I will take a drive down Merryfields and see, from google it looks like it might be possible to access from the turning area rather than the drive.

    It is not an immediate issue, would need to sell the other BTL first (there is a 'final viewing' today) and would probably wait and see if there is any interest as I think 635 is a bit steep for the 'as-is' house as the 4 bed detacheds on that street sell for less than 500 normally so would be more looking at offering about 550 in October if it is still available; the current extensions are a bit of a fail.
    I think....
  • michaels
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    I think the very NW corner of the plot has about a driveway's width that borders on the road of Merryfields before the other house's driveway begins. To get access through there for a house that was level with the Merryfields house (ie in about the position of the existing shed, which is where I think you'd get least problems from overlooking) would be a bit of an odd angle, but might be doable.

    Then you could divide the plot with a line E-W and put the new house in the W bit of the S half, with its windows mostly facing E. The existing house would keep most of the N half of the plot, apart from having a bit carved out of the W edge of the garden to make the drive for the new house from Merryfields.

    I happen to know that planners get very fussy about new houses overlooking the gardens of existing houses. At least, the ones around here do.

    I think it would be further N with its S wall level with the N wall of the Merryfields property and with its garden to the S and front garden/Parking to the N leaving the existing house with a side patio to the W and its garden also to the S. However given the ages of the developments there may also be issues with covenants etc.
    I think....
  • LydiaJ
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    michaels wrote: »
    I think it would be further N with its S wall level with the N wall of the Merryfields property and with its garden to the S and front garden/Parking to the N leaving the existing house with a side patio to the W and its garden also to the S. However given the ages of the developments there may also be issues with covenants etc.

    That would certainly maximise the amount of S facing garden - which is a good selling point. However, which way would you have the windows of the new house facing? I don't think they'll let you build the new house with windows overlooking the side patio of the existing house.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
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