In A Real Mess....Benefit Fraud

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BillJones

outofmymind wrote: »

It was his new wife that kicked me out of my family home where I had lived for 35 years. The money is the only contact I have with him, I don't see him or speak to him from one month to the next, all thanks to her

This is not Italy, it's quite normal for a 35 year-old in the UK to be expected to move out and stand on their own feet.

I understand that it's nice to be looked after, but surely you can see that his new wife doesn't want another grown adult living in her home, can't you?

jlawrence

Poppie68 wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Tut tut tut Andy you've still got a vivid imagination!


Op....Ignore this character he is a longtime troll who deserves a criminal record for being an longtime idiot!

Thanks Poppie, why are you picking on me? What I have said is absolutely true and the case was heard in the Manchester Crown Court.

dodger1

outofmymind wrote: »

It was his new wife that kicked me out of my family home where I had lived for 35 years. The money is the only contact I have with him, I don't see him or speak to him from one month to the next, all thanks to her

Sorry but it's down to your dad as well, it's good of him to give you the money but there is nothing to stop him seeing you. He just needs to stand up to her.

dktreesea

outofmymind wrote: »

Who interviewed me said that because they occurred every month they were income and not a gift. A gift would be a once a year thing for a birthday. What I had was income that has not been declared

Rubbish. The interviewer clearly doesn't know the law. What consideration did you offer for the money? Certainly not your labour. A gift is a gift, whenever it occurs and doesn't form part of your income for the purposes of assessing benefit. I can't believe the interviewer didn't actually know this. If they genuinely didn't then they should be sanctioned by their work place for incompetence. They are meant to know it.

I would make a formal complaint to the DWP about the interviewer's actions, pointing out the relevant parts of the legislation that Housing Benefit Officer has passed onto you, and asking formally what they intend to do to redress the situation. I would also include the police in that compalint. Surely we should be able to expect the police to know the law when it comes to investigating fraud even if the DWP staff are incompetent?

jlawrence

dktreesea wrote: »

Rubbish. The interviewer clearly doesn't know the law. What consideration did you offer for the money? Certainly not your labour. A gift is a gift, whenever it occurs and doesn't form part of your income for the purposes of assessing benefit. I can't believe the interviewer didn't actually know this. If they genuinely didn't then they should be sanctioned by their work place for incompetence. They are meant to know it.

I would make a formal complaint to the DWP about the interviewer's actions, pointing out the relevant parts of the legislation that Housing Benefit Officer has passed onto you, and asking formally what they intend to do to redress the situation. I would also include the police in that compalint. Surely we should be able to expect the police to know the law when it comes to investigating fraud even if the DWP staff are incompetent?

Hi dk, as I have already said, none of this actually surprises me as I have been at the sharp end myself. Not knowing very much, you have to rely on what the DWP tell you even if others say it is rubbish. How can you know it's wrong, if they are the ones that should always be right?
I was interviewed and told that I had fiddled benefits and on the strength of that I pleased guilty to fraud. Years later I found that the DWP had it all wrong and that I had not carried out any fraud. I couldn't get rid of my criminal record because of it or get back the 6 months I did in prison, or the time spent every week on release having to see the probation service for 2 years.

tomtontom

jlawrence wrote: »

Hi dk, as I have already said, none of this actually surprises me as I have been at the sharp end myself. Not knowing very much, you have to rely on what the DWP tell you even if others say it is rubbish. How can you know it's wrong, if they are the ones that should always be right?
I was interviewed and told that I had fiddled benefits and on the strength of that I pleased guilty to fraud. Years later I found that the DWP had it all wrong and that I had not carried out any fraud. I couldn't get rid of my criminal record because of it or get back the 6 months I did in prison, or the time spent every week on release having to see the probation service for 2 years.

Six months on top of your time inside for manslaughter? You do have some misfortune!

dippy3103

jlawrence wrote: »

I was interviewed and told that I had fiddled benefits and on the strength of that I pleased guilty to fraud. Years later I found that the DWP had it all wrong and that I had not carried out any fraud. I couldn't get rid of my criminal record because of it or get back the 6 months I did in prison, or the time spent every week on release having to see the probation service for 2 years.

6 months custodial for benefit fraud? What was the charge?

Must have been a huge overpayment to wind up at Crown in the first place.

jlawrence

tomtontom wrote: »

Six months on top of your time inside for manslaughter? You do have some misfortune!

???????? Hi this is now getting ridiculous.

jlawrence

dippy3103 wrote: »

6 months custodial for benefit fraud? What was the charge?

Must have been a huge overpayment to wind up at Crown in the first place.

18 months trying to start up a business from nothing but claiming unemployment benefit/Council Tax Benefit/Income Support as well. Did advise every time I signed on that I was doing the day here and there and that after expenses was making just a few pounds a week at best. Found to be working full time (80% of my time was looking for business) by the DWP. Home was searched and records indicated that earnings were more than what I admitted to. Pleaded guilty, case was sent to Crown for sentencing. Received 6 months + 2 years probation plus had to repay the £12000 of benefits.
Later found out that the DWP had wrongly calculated the income - they calculated gross income, should have been net. Accounts sent to HMRC and agreed actually showed a loss for the period in question