Galloway Smashes Scottish Separatists with Stellar Speech in the Spectator

Tromking

DaveTheMus wrote: »

The SNP have managed to salvage some things, like tuition fees and prescription charges in spite of the Westminster poiticos.

I can't believe you believe that flawed narrative! Scotland is awash with public money, that's why you can afford such things, why can't you see that!
The very idea that Scotland is somehow predisposed unlike Westminster or England to help its citizens as regards their health and education is laughable. If Scotland had the English level of per capita spend you'd be charging tuition fees and for prescriptions too.

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Does anyone think that the UK NHS should bar free access to the Scots?

What is the difference in logic?

ruggedtoast

DaveTheMus wrote: »

Here we go again, nowhere did I mention English people....

I mentioned Westminster, yes.

The English people have suffered more at the hands of the Westminster clowns than Scottish people in recent times.

The SNP have managed to salvage some things, like tuition fees and prescription charges in spite of the Westminster poiticos.

You must stop conflating English people with Westminster, English people don't come into it, the Westminster lot do, even the Scottish ones.

It is Westminster and it's broken first past the post system.

Once the United Kingdom is terminally reduced after the independence vote it will put a stop to British foreign secretaries swaggering around on the world stage telling other countries what they should and should not do.

Yeah. We 'll just have to concentrate on countries that have annoyed us a lot closer to home. I wonder who the will be? Oh...

DaveTheMus

Tromking wrote: »

I can't believe you believe that flawed narrative! Scotland is awash with public money, that's why you can afford such things, why can't you see that!
The very idea that Scotland is somehow predisposed unlike Westminster or England to help its citizens as regards their health and education is laughable. If Scotland had the English level of per capita spend you'd be charging tuition fees and for prescriptions too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_of_the_United_Kingdom_by_GVA_per_capita

GVA per capita for the regions of the UK

1: Greater London - £35'638
2: South East - £22'369
3: Scotland - £20'571
4: East - £19'355
5: South West - £19'093
6: East Midlands - £18'083
7: North West - £17'754
8: West Midlands - £17'486
9: Yorkshire - £17'073
10: Northern Ire - £16'531
11: North East - £15'842
12: Wales - £15'696

Revenues from North Sea oil and gas are not included in these figures. If it was, Scotland would have a greater GVA per capita output than that of both England and the United Kingdom as a whole, although it would still be behind the Greater London region

Furthermore, almost 79% of people employed in Scotland are employed in the private sector(myself included).

However, I will concede that in Scotland, we enjoy £1300 per head more spending on public services than our English counterparts, so it's not all milk and honey.

But, Holyroad receives their yearly budget from Westminster, it is then for them to decide what that budget is spent on. It's a good thing that money is being spent on social programs like free prescriptions and no tuition fees. What's more important than health and education after all!

DaveTheMus

Tromking wrote: »

Ah, the Scots mentality to public spending for all to see, everything is affordable just vote for it and the rest of the UK will pay for it!
I look forward post the no vote to the end of the Barnett formula and the stark realism in Scotland that the salad days courtesy of the English taxpayer are finally over.

How's the early-retirement plans going?

Did you ever find out if you could use a redundancy payment to boost your Civil-Service pension?

Maybe someone on here can help you:

Tromking wrote: »

Hi!
I`m 47 years of age have been a member of the Classic PCSPS scheme for 26 years. My part of the civil service is in the midst of a major rationalisation process and the government establishment where I work has been earmarked for closure sometime within the next ten years. In other establishments where they have been through the closure process, many (over the age of 50) have used their redundancy cash to buy extra pension in order to retire straightaway. Using the info I`ve gleaned from some on this forum, am I right in thinking that with the pension reforms coming our way in 2015 that......

a) I will be unable (post 2015) to buy any extra years of the Classic pension?
b) I will have to be 55 and over to purchase extra years in the new pension scheme to retire straightaway?
Extra info- I am a mobile grade so should have the option to move if I don`t fancy leaving.

I have posed this question in an e-mail to myCSP and have yet to have a reply, does anyone on here know?

Just retire at 55, collect a pension for 30+years and the rest of the UK will pay for it......

Tromking

DaveTheMus wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_of_the_United_Kingdom_by_GVA_per_capita




Furthermore, almost 79% of people employed in Scotland are employed in the private sector.

However, I will concede that in Scotland, we enjoy £1300 per head more spending on public services than our English counterparts, so it's not all milk and honey.

But, Holyroad receives their yearly budget from Westminster, it is then for them to decide what that budget is spent on. It's a good thing that money is being spent on social programs like free prescriptions and no tuition fees. What's more important than health and education after all!

Until Scotland opts for independence then the oil is as much English as it is Scottish, I fail to see why it's location off the coast of Scotland is a justification for the higher block grant the Scots get from the UK treasury.
Again I repeat, the reason Holyrood makes a priority of funding "social programs" is because it can afford to do so, and the reason it is affordable is because the rest of the UK subsidises you.

DaveTheMus

Tromking wrote: »

Until Scotland opts for independence then the oil is as much English as it is Scottish, I fail to see why it's location off the coast of Scotland is a justification for the higher block grant the Scots get from the UK treasury.
Again I repeat, the reason Holyrood makes a priority of funding "social programs" is because it can afford to do so, and the reason it is affordable is because the rest of the UK subsidises you.

12 regions in the UK, Scotland has the third highest GDP of the twelve regions. If North Sea Oil is factored into this then Scotland is second behind only Greater London.

If North Sea oil was attributed to English, Welsh and Irish economic activity it wouldn't be much of a regional analysis

Tromking

DaveTheMus wrote: »

How's the early-retirement plans going?

Did you ever find out if you could use a redundancy payment to boost your Civil-Service pension?

Maybe someone on here can help you:



Just retire at 55, collect a pension for 30+years and the rest of the UK will pay for it......

You've been busy and a tad off topic!
For what it's worth I've spent my entire working life paying for other people's pensions in tax and like it or loathe it my employment terms and conditions means other taxpayers will have to pay for mine (God willing).

robmatic

DaveTheMus wrote: »

12 regions in the UK, Scotland has the third highest GDP of the twelve regions. If North Sea Oil is factored into this then Scotland is second behind only Greater London.

If North Sea oil was attributed to English, Welsh and Irish economic activity it wouldn't be much of a regional analysis

To be fair, it's not much of a regional analysis when it lumps Aberdeenshire together with Ayrshire.

DaveTheMus

Tromking wrote: »

You've been busy and a tad off topic!
For what it's worth I've spent my entire working life paying for other people's pensions in tax and like it or loathe it my employment terms and conditions means other taxpayers will have to pay for mine (God willing).

Let's be honest, your wages are paid by the taxpayer....

You've been suckling at the t!t of the taxpayer your entire working life......

It's the private sector that generates the wealth needed to pay for people like yourself. As a part of the wealth creating sector of society I don't mind subsidising you......

It is the ultimate irony that a civil servant who will retire at 55 with a large redundancy payment in tow complains about public sector spending in another part of the UK.