Help I've got a PCN for pulling into an access road

AdrianC

fisherjim wrote: »

Well it shows how little you know then doesn't it because it has happened

Lots of people claim lots of things have happened. Some of them even have. At least the OP in this thread is laudably accurate in accepting his own culpability.

but, once again you have evaded the question.

No, I haven't. I've answered it clearly twice. Your inability to accept that answer is not my problem.

Would you just pay up if they sent you one of their fake charges if your car stalled (you know the ones you keep wrongly calling penalties).

My reaction would be exactly the same to receiving a nice letter telling me that the mane on my pink unicorn needed combing.

nobbysn*ts

esmerobbo wrote: »

Well airport security would be the responsibility of the police not someone sitting in a white van with a camera taking photos.

I cant speak for Robin Hood but for VCS at John Lennon I know this site very well if there was a security problem it would come from Hale road which is the main road running parallel with the airport, and not from Speke hall avenue. However Peel holdings don't own Hale road the council do, and even on DYL's cars are parked there all day.
So it seems security is not the real reason for the issuing of these invoices. As if it were the real security agencies would move the vehicles from Hale road. As it happens Peel own the neighbouring industrial estate and the same no stopping trick is carried out there. Yet the one next door but use the same roads, have no restrictions and no parking problems. The only people who ever park are a few who go fishing in the estates ponds.

I have no problems with security measures but these have nothing to do with security or safety and are simply a way of making money.

I can't speak for Robin Hood either, but I would hate to be lumbered with the cost of using police to enforce airport parking as a taxpayer. I also don't know enough about counter terrorism to be able to judge what security measures are needed, and what aren't. What we have seems to work, no-one has fired a SAM missile at my aeroplane, and equally, the police in riot gear haven't dragged any cars away with armoured personal carriers, so the status quo seems to be working. Is it fair? Is someone making money? Is it costing me in taxes? Apart from the last one, who knows.

bazster

Ah, elephants and custard powder...

bazster

Here is what an APCOA spokesperson rather unguardedly told the Luton Herald recently:

Upon reviewing the CCTV Ms. Lee's PCN was rescinded on the grounds that she was not deliberately trying to evade the parking charge, more so trying to gather her bearings which is completely understandable.

Drivers should only expect to be penalised if they are seen to use the restricted 'no stopping at all times' zones as pick-up or drop-off points.

Ms. Lee was clearly not in breach of these terms which is why we are pleased to cancel the PCN.

We have reassured Ms. Lee that our processes don't penalise those that stop to find directions.

So there you have it, a blatant admission that, at Luton Airport at least, it's got the square root of naff all to do with security and everything to do with extorting money from the despised "kiss-and-fly" passengers.

(It's also a blatant lie because APCOA issues fake fines every single day to others who lost their bearings, the only difference in Ms. Lee's case is that she went to the press.)

trisontana

APCOA have even issued tickets to motorists stuck in road works or at red traffic lights who have allowed a passenger to leave their car to catch a plane.

daveyjp

Nice us of the word "penalise" in the quote too. Talk about hanging yourself.

nobbysn*ts

bazster wrote: »

Here is what an APCOA spokesperson rather unguardedly told the Luton Herald recently:

Upon reviewing the CCTV Ms. Lee's PCN was rescinded on the grounds that she was not deliberately trying to evade the parking charge, more so trying to gather her bearings which is completely understandable.

Drivers should only expect to be penalised if they are seen to use the restricted 'no stopping at all times' zones as pick-up or drop-off points.

Ms. Lee was clearly not in breach of these terms which is why we are pleased to cancel the PCN.

We have reassured Ms. Lee that our processes don't penalise those that stop to find directions.

So there you have it, a blatant admission that, at Luton Airport at least, it's got the square root of naff all to do with security and everything to do with extorting money from the despised "kiss-and-fly" passengers.

(It's also a blatant lie because APCOA issues fake fines every single day to others who lost their bearings, the only difference in Ms. Lee's case is that she went to the press.)

Again though, why avoid paying the charges to use the pick up and drop off zones? I have no great objection to them, if I use public transport, I don't pay the fees. Seems a fairer system than simply adding the cost to everyone's flight, and penalising those who don't travel by car. As to dropping off at one secure point, again, I have no problems with that aspect of security. I would prefer it to anyone and everyone being dropped off anywhere they fancy, then just wandering around the airport at random. That's a security risk that needs controlling.

Hot_Bring

AdrianC wrote: »

Lots of people claim lots of things have happened. Some of them even have. At least the OP in this thread is laudably accurate in accepting his own culpability.



No, I haven't. I've answered it clearly twice. Your inability to accept that answer is not my problem.



My reaction would be exactly the same to receiving a nice letter telling me that the mane on my pink unicorn needed combing.

With the greatest respect, your posts on this topic clearly show you're not an expert. Maybe you should pop over to the parking forum to understand the legalities and the truth before you dig any further ?

AdrianC

Hot_Bring wrote: »

With the greatest respect, your posts on this topic clearly show you're not an expert. Maybe you should pop over to the parking forum to understand the legalities and the truth before you dig any further ?

With the greatest of respect, my sole comment on the legalities has been to say that whilst it is easier for public-sector penalties to be enforced than private ones, they can still be successfully enforced via courts. Which, afaia, is absolutely true and which has not so far been questioned. The rest of what I've said is not related to the legalities.

fil_cad

He sounds like an armchair lawyer to me who spills dross on all topics available.:rotfl: