50,000 strong march in London

The_White_Horse

Moby wrote: »

5 million people get paid less than the minimum wage................
So where exactly 'do they belong'? You mean bottom of the pile, lowest of the low? The arrogance of someone pontificating on the access to resources that others should be entitled to.....shameful! You talk about greedy ignorant public service workers but don't mention the tax dodging, 'cash in hand' barrow boy types I see every day. Thank you for again demonstrating the self interested bigotry and ignorance that empowers the struggle for change.

People gotta do what they gotta do. I bet most people will rather pay the million immigrants your lot let in cash in hand (most sent back to Poland and Romania) than help the poor here. Still, if the English worker wants £3000 and Dimitri wants £1500, i think we know who is going to get the job don't we.

Labour have done more to damage to the poor working class Brits in their decade in power than the Tories ever did in hundreds of years.

I love the wealthy left wing liberals who tell me that living in hackney is so wonderful and they have plenty or opportunity to buy artisan cheese in the local polish markets - and when you ask if their kid goes to the local school - they say "oh no, little jeffrey goes to City of London or Westminster"

Hateful wealthy liberals who do the "morally" right thing, because they are not affected at all - and stuff the poor.

Generali

N1AK wrote: »

We spend ~£40-50 a week on food for two. We're pretty tight but I think I'd struggle to spend £100 let alone £150-£200. Perhaps I should upgrade from peanut butter to caviar on my toast!?

I don't think £150-200 a week is crazy. It's more than I spend now but I could quite easily spend that on food without going made, simply by buying nice quality things.

For a start, I'd buy Label Anglais chicken. I used to pay a tenner a bird so probably more like £15-20 now. They're very nice and they're kept very well as far as I can tell.

A roast chook with veggies and gravy isn't a 'fancy' meal but you get a nicer meal and a happier animal if you pay.

chucknorris

Generali wrote: »

I used to pay a tenner a bird so probably more like £15-20 now. They're very nice

Your wife is far more open minded and understanding than mine is Gen.

antrobus

TickersPlaysPop wrote: »

What you all realise is that this is just to start of things to come... ....

You didn't read my post now did you?

500,000 took to the streets in 2011 to protest the cuts.

50,000 took to the streets in 2014 to protest the cuts.

The trend looks clear to me.

TickersPlaysPop wrote: »

...Civil unrest will increase..... Boris knows it.... With his BOGOF water cannons.... This dissatisfaction with the system is growing.... Example UKIP ....

Somehow I don't quite place UKIP at the vanguard of the revolution.

TickersPlaysPop wrote: »

........ This unrest will move politics... And policies... ..

Marching around London with placards shouting slogans does not amount to "unrest".

TickersPlaysPop wrote: »

..Such as capital gains on residential property investment.... Protection laws for tenants....so ..... buy to let as a career and living is on the cusp of changing...

Oh, the sad decline of the British left!

In my day our objective was to 'Smash the State'. Your objective is to implement 'capital gains on residential property investment'. It doesn't quite have the same ring to it. Particularly since we already have CGT on residential property investment.

TickersPlaysPop wrote: »

..I've been trying to say this repeatedly in post after post..... and increases in house prices will make things worse....

Well I'm glad you've taken the trouble to let us all know what you have been trying to say. Some of us were wondering.

Generali

chucknorris wrote: »

Your wife is far more open minded and understanding than mine is Gen.

A man has needs chucknorris. Needs.

The_White_Horse

i like my dead roasted chicken to be happy

Generali

The_White_Horse wrote: »

i like my dead roasted chicken to be happy

A happy animal is a tasty animal. Battery chickens taste terrible.

Old_Slaphead

Moby wrote: »

5 million people get paid less than the minimum wage................

Is that a fact ?

In the UK ?

What's the source of this information ?

shaggydoo

50,000 isn't a big march - which is probably why it got no publicity.

The Stop The War rally (against the Iraq war) got between 1 million and 2 million demonstrators. CND used to regularly get between 200,000 and half a million on the streets in the 80s.

N1AK

Generali wrote: »

I don't think £150-200 a week is crazy. It's more than I spend now but I could quite easily spend that on food without going made, simply by buying nice quality things.

A roast chook with veggies and gravy isn't a 'fancy' meal but you get a nicer meal and a happier animal if you pay.

I didn't say it was crazy, nor do I think it is. I would consider it a waste of money but then lots of things are in my opinion but aren't in other peoples and that's fine.

What I would say is that anyone spending £100+ a week on groceries for two people has very little grounds to complain about food prices and the squeezed middle.

As to the merits of premium poultry; it's probably a subject for elsewhere. However, I've seen plenty of imagined justifications for premium food in general and little if any evidence that it influences health, taste or welfare in the vast majority of cases.