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Doing it the wrong way around

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  • Brightspark87
    Brightspark87 Posts: 1,466 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Debt-free and Proud!
    Wow,you've done so well congrats on staying so strong and getting there!

    Paid off all Catalogues 10.10.2014
  • tallyhoh
    tallyhoh Posts: 2,307 Forumite
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    Oh wow! I have subscribed to your thread so keep posting!
    Tallyhoh! Stopped Smoking October 2000. Saved £29382.50 so far!
  • JasX
    JasX Posts: 3,996 Forumite
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    edited 19 June 2014 at 9:00AM
    Council tax............................. 114
    -If you are living on your own are you claiming the 25% single occupier discount?

    Mobile phone............................ 170
    -This is HUGE! if contracted are you actually making good use of all the data/voice minutes/texts?
    if contracted you can usually switch to a lower rate after the first 6 months
    If this includes a lot of calling to/from overseas you should investigate getting a cheap unlocked PAYG phone for local PAYG sim card when overseas, any international bundles/bolt-ons your provider has available, that your are on the most appropriate tariff for your useage and/or other methods of making longer international calls (eg get a headset and use skype via a laptop or ipad/tablet, or even on your smartphone via wifi)

    Internet Services....................... 70
    This is high, if it includes a big TV package do you actually make good use of it with plenty of time to watch TV? I found it cheaper to just ditch it and buy DVD boxed sets of the few shows I actually wanted to watch (I was so behind anyway) -coupled with on demand movie rental via an apple TV (or similar)

    If it's for high reliability internet I have a fast high reliability connection with a dedicated/boutique b2b type ISP for £30 per month (as in if I call on a sunday it goes direct to a tech guy's mobile, no call centers involved), shop around

    Groceries etc. ......................... 290
    This could be cut easily, do you buy fresh ingredients and cook simple things from scratch (eg pasta) on a weeknight rather than takign the M&S ready meal option?

    Clothing................................ 145
    *ahem* I'll leave this one to you.

    Petrol/diesel........................... 60
    Road tax................................ 38
    Car Insurance........................... 67
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 333
    Car parking............................. 192.5
    Other travel............................ 400
    You really need to have a good look at and rationalisation of your travel arrangements, do you need two cars? do you even need one car? (I live in london and find the tube + occasional taxi + car rental if necessay is perfectly functional), are you stuck using expensive 'corporate focused' high price taxi firms when a reliable minicab firm would probably suffice? -> do some homework to find a few good ones.

    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 40
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 0
    Contents insurance...................... 39

    Life assurance ......................... 76
    If you have no dependents is this necessary? are you already covered by anything you get thru work/a pension scheme anyway?

    Other insurance......................... 15
    Hopefully this isn't one of those unnecessary 'extended warranty' / homeserve / breakdown insurance, it's often cheaper just to pay for one off repairs when they occur unless you do have delapidated cheap appliances that break down all the time

    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 125
    Consider reducing

    Haircuts................................ 45
    Consider reducing too

    Entertainment........................... 0
    Holiday................................. 0


    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    You should aim to build one up

    Cleaner................................. 90
    This is also expensive, given your income it probably is worth having one so you can direct your energies into your day job but do they really need to come around for as long as they do and as frequently as they do?

    Gym..................................... 110
    Again expensive, are you actually getting good use out of it? could you shop around? would it be cheaper to use something like the 'pay as you gym' website and only pay per visit?

    Cash (Entertainment?)................... 450
    try to keep a spending diary and work out exactly where this is going, identify potential areas to cut back

    Coffees Out............................. 40
    These are generally full of sugar and empty calories and a good habit to kick (I stick to black tea from the office coffee point)

    Dining Out.............................. 210
    Actually this doesn't seem excessive in my book :)

    Total monthly expenses.................. 5648.12


    Assets
    Cash.................................... 6500
    House value (Gross)..................... 340000
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 12000
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 358500


    Secured & HP Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 345000...(644.5)....0
    Total secured & HP debts...... 345000....-.........-
    After clearing debts taking chunks out of this with spare cash will leave you with more money each month by cutting interest payments, avoiding interest payments is a very tax efficient way to 'save' money

    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Barclaycard 1..................5010......112.7.....27.9
    Barclaycard 2..................7649.96...240.......29.19
    MBNA...........................3650......115.......31
    CapitalOne.....................1344......145.......34.08
    Total unsecured debts..........17653.96..612.7.....-
    Others will comment here
  • Dobbibill
    Dobbibill Posts: 4,199 Ambassador
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    Congrats on your progress so far, you have done so well :T


    Lots of good advice on other posts with plenty of areas to save money.
    Your credit cards all seem to have quite high interest rates. Are you able to shift any of them to 0% (DON'T SPEND ON THEM IF YOU DO)
    Snowballing is a good technique to use when looking to pay off unsecured debt, paying off the card with the highest interest first is best.
    Here's a link for you to see exactly how long it will take you to be debt free. It can be calculated by interest or balance, have a play around with it, it shows you how much you would/could pay in interest


    http://www.whatsthecost.com/snowball.aspx


    All the very best with your challenges ahead #subscribed
    Keep up the good work :T


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  • Max_Maxwell
    Max_Maxwell Posts: 126 Forumite
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    It's been interesting reading. We all assume that everyone in debt earns peanuts and scrapes by. I admire your honesty about both your income and expenditure. We are not here to judge, only help.

    The one overrding point here, Thomathy, is that you have the financial maneouvreability to do something about your situation. Usually those in debt are already down to the wire and have no financial flexibility. You have become accustomed to a standard of living that you can't afford in your financial situation. Granted, if you were debt free you could relish every moment and enjoy it as you should. No doubt you work hard and are rewarded accordingly.

    Others have already pointed out where you could be cutting costs so I won't go there. But I think if you took a long and honest look at your expenditure you could make some hefty cutbacks and your quality of life wouldn't suffer.

    Whilst we're on this Earth the primary factor is always 'the gift of life'. Everything else is secondary. Think on that a while...

    Max
  • katejo
    katejo Posts: 4,320 Forumite
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    It's been interesting reading. We all assume that everyone in debt earns peanuts and scrapes by. I admire your honesty about both your income and expenditure. We are not here to judge, only help.

    The one overrding point here, Thomathy, is that you have the financial maneouvreability to do something about your situation. Usually those in debt are already down to the wire and have no financial flexibility. You have become accustomed to a standard of living that you can't afford in your financial situation. Granted, if you were debt free you could relish every moment and enjoy it as you should. No doubt you work hard and are rewarded accordingly.

    Others have already pointed out where you could be cutting costs so I won't go there. But I think if you took a long and honest look at your expenditure you could make some hefty cutbacks and your quality of life wouldn't suffer.

    Whilst we're on this Earth the primary factor is always 'the gift of life'. Everything else is secondary. Think on that a while...

    Max

    I agree. Your budget for social life and eating out is more than I have for food, general week to week expenses and socialising for the whole month. The £2000 which you allocate to pay off debt is more than I take home after tax for the month. Yet I am better off than many and have no debt other than the mortgage. Do you ever cook meals at home and do a double portion to go in the freezer?
    re. rental income: I note that you deduct the mortgage expenses before paying tax. Are you aware that you only get tax relief on mortgage interest not the whole mortgage?
  • JasX
    JasX Posts: 3,996 Forumite
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    katejo wrote: »
    re. rental income: I note that you deduct the mortgage expenses before paying tax. Are you aware that you only get tax relief on mortgage interest not the whole mortgage?

    I believe they mentioned their mortgage is interest only.... which is part of the dilemma (tho does make it all eligible for tax relief as a small consolation!)
  • katejo
    katejo Posts: 4,320 Forumite
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    JasX wrote: »
    I believe they mentioned their mortgage is interest only.... which is part of the dilemma (tho does make it all eligible for tax relief as a small consolation!)
    I missed that bit! So OP takes home over 7K a month and still only pays mortgage interest! My interest rate on my mortgage is now only 0.77% but I carry on with overpayments at the equivalent of about 5% so that I won't notice too much when the rates go up again.
  • thomathy
    thomathy Posts: 46 Forumite
    Changes in progress. Watch this space...
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