Asda cash back taken without consent

rosie-lee

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

you don't know she is still at it, she might have got the shock she needs.

Or she realised how easy it really is to 'get away' with it.

ThumbRemote

tinkerbell28 wrote: »

No they won't. As I said up thread, she can expect a reference number for the call. Depends where she is, maybe a generic police ref/incident ref. I stopped short of saying crime reference...as she won't get one of those.

They don't just hand them out now willy nilly.

Do you have any basis for that claim? My experience is quite the opposite - an incident number almost always leads to a crime reference number. Maybe this varies by police force.

tinkerbell28

ThumbRemote wrote: »

Do you have any basis for that claim? My experience is quite the opposite - an incident number almost always leads to a crime reference number. Maybe this varies by police force.

Yes.....10 chars.

lucy03

tinkerbell28 wrote: »

There's a story on one of these boards....where a son has basically siphoned off 50k + from their elderly Dad leaving them destitute.

The police investigated as you'd expect for such prolific fraud. However they can't pursue a criminal case as despite having lots of evidence. They don't have enough to think the CPS will allow it to go on as it won't stick.

Welcome to policing today, red tape, paperwork, and not being able to take to court, massive, obvious frauds.

Those that think the police will remotely be able to do anything, let alone deduce it was theft, well I can only say they aren't living in the UK! Or just have no idea about reality.

I've seen, over the years, countless cases of shop lifting go through the courts for very small sums of money. The police and CPS can, and do, progress theft of small sums. The case of theft from within the family is far more complex.

But this isn't the whole picture anyway. Reporting to the police allows them to make a decision. Not reporting it means that they can't. The reality is IMO that they probably would progress the matter with a low-level contact to the supermarket from the safer neighbourhood team or something similar.

That contact is likely to be more than sufficient for the supermarket to ensure it's dealt with the matter, in case a supervisor was covering it up for whatever reason. And it makes it very difficult for the individual cashier to repeat the crime. The aim wouldn't be to get the cashier sent to the magistrates' court, it would be to ensure that it doesn't happen again.

It isn't the case that because someone disagrees with you that "they have no idea about reality". What happens in some areas might differ widely, but I can't imagine this case being ignored by any of the police forces I've worked with. And I also can't think of a single police force that would rather not be told of crimes, even if they know that sometimes there's not much they can do.

halibut2209

tinkerbell28 wrote: »

Yes.....10 chars.

Thanks for elucidating

Credibility -10

halibut2209

lucy03 wrote: »

I've seen, over the years, countless cases of shop lifting go through the courts for very small sums of money. The police and CPS can, and do, progress theft of small sums. The case of theft from within the family is far more complex.

But this isn't the whole picture anyway. Reporting to the police allows them to make a decision. Not reporting it means that they can't. The reality is IMO that they probably would progress the matter with a low-level contact to the supermarket from the safer neighbourhood team or something similar.

That contact is likely to be more than sufficient for the supermarket to ensure it's dealt with the matter, in case a supervisor was covering it up for whatever reason. And it makes it very difficult for the individual cashier to repeat the crime. The aim wouldn't be to get the cashier sent to the magistrates' court, it would be to ensure that it doesn't happen again.

It isn't the case that because someone disagrees with you that "they have no idea about reality". What happens in some areas might differ widely, but I can't imagine this case being ignored by any of the police forces I've worked with. And I also can't think of a single police force that would rather not be told of crimes, even if they know that sometimes there's not much they can do.

Thank you.

At the end of the day, if you think there's a crime against you, you report it. Simple as that. If the police don't do anything with it, then that's a separate issue. But as you say, they can't do anything if it's not reported.

Always, ALWAYS report a crime.