Asda cash back taken without consent

DavidF

Wonder how it would work if I walked into ASDA and filled my trolley with £100 worth of shopping and walked out without paying. My brother learns of my deed and goes to ASDA gives them the low down on what i did and hands them over £100 from his pocket.....do you think ASDA would then just drop it or would they call the police ? What if I try it at the bank ? hmm so im on a winner here then...IF I get caught my good old brother will pay it back and if I don't then hey ho im a happy thief....

tinkerbell28

halibut2209 wrote: »

OP DID suffer the loss. The fact that ASDA reimbursed is totally irrelevant.

Are you suggesting that if i got mugged and someone took £200, the police would not be interested if my father gave me it back?

If you suspect a crime, you inform the police. It's their decision whether to act on it or not.

Entirely different scenario. Violence would be involved. Police don't even deal with hit and runs, etc, now unless an injury has occurred.

As it stands if it was theft, no proof there ever was intention there, so can't prove it. Then the crime was committed by a representative of ASDA. They've been reimbursed by ASDA. I honestly though some people had a bit more common sense in understanding how things work.

It's a TENNER at the end of the day, there is NO PROOF he stole it or it was intentional, they can't prove he took the ten pounds. There is NO THEFT to prove.

Then op goes into Asda and says "ahem I'm down ten pounds". They rectify it, there is no loss here. It's ops opinion it was theft. Absolutely no proof at all it was, just circumstantial. There is NO LOSS here for op. She believes asda "stole" her money, they returned it, unless asda report it as an ongoing thing. It will just look like a mistake, nothing they can do.

I really can't believe people need it explaining. I think more time in reality for some people, and less time watching American dramas.

tinkerbell28

DavidF wrote: »

Wonder how it would work if I walked into ASDA and filled my trolley with £100 worth of shopping and walked out without paying. My brother learns of my deed and goes to ASDA gives them the low down on what i did and hands them over £100 from his pocket.....do you think ASDA would then just drop it or would they call the police ? What if I try it at the bank ? hmm so im on a winner here then...IF I get caught my good old brother will pay it back and if I don't then hey ho im a happy thief....

You'd easily be able to prove theft wouldn't you? It's theft the minute you walk out the store. There is NO PROOF this was not a till error, or any proof of him taking the money as far op is aware. So unless ASDA have that proof and wish to complain to the police, then nothing the police can do.

halibut2209

Incorrect. The OP reports an alleged crime, then the police ask ASDA to see if there's any proof. There has been no crime against ASDA. ASDA have no standing or reason to go to the police. The OP does.

tinkerbell28

halibut2209 wrote: »

Incorrect. The OP reports an alleged crime, then the police ask ASDA to see if there's any proof. There has been no crime against ASDA. ASDA have no standing or reason to go to the police. The OP does.

The police will do absolutely nothing. Mark my words. As there is no theft to prove, op currently has no loss. If anyone has lost out as a result of the "theft" it's ASDA. It's a tiny amount. She'd be much, much better off concentrating her outrage at head office, rather than wasting time reporting it to the police.

Next you'll all be telling her to dial 999.

clarryd

I think the police should have been called as there could have been many many people with £10 cash back on their receipts that they haven't noticed.

Its like saying a checkout operative can put tesco clubcard points on their own card if the customer hasn't got one.

Stealing is stealing in my book and should be reported.

halibut2209

Exactly. If everyone had the "it's only £10" attitude, then he's free to do it again, and again, and again.

ThumbRemote

tinkerbell28 wrote: »

The police will do absolutely nothing.

Yes they will - they will give a crime reference number once it is reported.

They may subsequently do nothing, or they may investigate. This depends on local policing priorities, available manpower, and the number of similar reports they receive.

tinkerbell28

ThumbRemote wrote: »

Yes they will - they will give a crime reference number once it is reported.

They may subsequently do nothing, or they may investigate. This depends on local policing priorities, available manpower, and the number of similar reports they receive.

No they won't. As I said up thread, she can expect a reference number for the call. Depends where she is, maybe a generic police ref/incident ref. I stopped short of saying crime reference...as she won't get one of those.

They don't just hand them out now willy nilly.

Facts are unless there is a bigger investigation going on, op will never hear off them, the £10 rung up accidentally or on "purpose" by an Asda employee, has been rectified by Asda. Police won't get involved.

tinkerbell28

There's a story on one of these boards....where a son has basically siphoned off 50k + from their elderly Dad leaving them destitute.

The police investigated as you'd expect for such prolific fraud. However they can't pursue a criminal case as despite having lots of evidence. They don't have enough to think the CPS will allow it to go on as it won't stick.

Welcome to policing today, red tape, paperwork, and not being able to take to court, massive, obvious frauds.

Those that think the police will remotely be able to do anything, let alone deduce it was theft, well I can only say they aren't living in the UK! Or just have no idea about reality.