Sharing/conflict resolution at nursery school?

daisiegg

notanewuser wrote: »

Actually, no. I've always had jobs where I can change things - including processes for an entire international hotel chain. I'm now an HR/Management consultant, so am hired specifically to change things and question why things are as they are within client organisations!

DH is in high demand by his clients to fix and improve things that don't work well (IT consultant). He spends all day questioning why things happen the way they do and finding better ways of doing things!

Again, you are lucky. But when you were in charge of processes for an entire international hotel chain, I bet not every single person below you following those processes was able to change them if they felt they were pointless. They would have to fall in with your decisions and what you decided had a point.

My husband also is in a pretty high position in his job and able to do things his way and not comply with things he doesn't see the point of. But you can understand that this is absolutely not the case for everyone in every job? The juniors and the secretaries and the admin staff who work for my husband can't pick and choose which processes they follow because they think some are pointless. I, as a lowly teacher, do not have the ability to change things I see as pointless. In fact, even my head teacher doesn't to a certain extent, because she has to follow rules set down by the government and so on. I'm sure your daughter will be just as successful in life as you and your husband but she probably won't immediately at the age of 16 (or whenever she gets her first part time job) fall into a high powered role where she is able to question and change everything she doesn't agree with or see the point of.

notanewuser

daisiegg wrote: »

Again, you are lucky. But when you were in charge of processes for an entire international hotel chain, I bet not every single person below you following those processes was able to change them if they felt they were pointless. They would have to fall in with your decisions and what you decided had a point.

My husband also is in a pretty high position in his job and able to do things his way and not comply with things he doesn't see the point of. But you can understand that this is absolutely not the case for everyone in every job? The juniors and the secretaries and the admin staff who work for my husband can't pick and choose which processes they follow because they think some are pointless. I, as a lowly teacher, do not have the ability to change things I see as pointless. In fact, even my head teacher doesn't to a certain extent, because she has to follow rules set down by the government and so on. I'm sure your daughter will be just as successful in life as you and your husband but she probably won't immediately at the age of 16 (or whenever she gets her first part time job) fall into a high powered role where she is able to question and change everything she doesn't agree with or see the point of.

Point is that anybody in "the system" should be allowed to question it. Yes, the answer might be "we're happy with what we're doing because......." or "the reason we do this like this is..........", but in my view it should never be "we've always done this, so why would we change it?"

Mojisola

notanewuser wrote: »

Point is that anybody in "the system" should be allowed to question it. Yes, the answer might be "we're happy with what we're doing because......." or "the reason we do this like this is..........", but in my view it should never be "we've always done this, so why would we change it?"

And if people hadn't done this, generation after generation, we wouldn't have the world we live in now.

notanewuser

Actually, even as a 16 year old part time waitress earning £2.50 an hour I was able/encouraged to find better ways of doing things.

onlyroz

notanewuser wrote: »

Point is that anybody in "the system" should be allowed to question it. Yes, the answer might be "we're happy with what we're doing because......." or "the reason we do this like this is..........", but in my view it should never be "we've always done this, so why would we change it?"

Exactly. As an example I'm asked to fill out a timesheet each week detailing how long I spent on each project I'm involved in. I might question the "point" of doing this - it provides no value for my own work or for my immediate - but it provides useful feedback to the project managers on how to budget for future projects.

Let's say that each day I was told I had to sing a particular nursery rhyme before I was allowed to log onto my computer. I ask "why do I have to do this", and the answer is "because we always have". Wouldn't I be right to suggest that my time might be better spent doing something else instead? Or should I just continue doing it every day without ever questioning the purpose behind it?

If you want a satirical look at a society that has become absorbed by pointless rituals try reading the Gormenghast books.

DS4215

notanewuser wrote: »

Can you please explain what you mean by this?

Exactly what I said. The national language of the UK is English, all other languages that a pupil might speak at home should be taught only as a second/foreign language. That includes the regional languages of Gaelic and Welsh. That is not to stop parents from teaching kids outside of school, but there are very few people that can only communicate in those languages.

notanewuser

DS4215 wrote: »

Exactly what I said. The national language of the UK is English, all other languages that a pupil might speak at home should be taught only as a second/foreign language. That includes the regional languages of Gaelic and Welsh. That is not to stop parents from teaching kids outside of school, but there are very few people that can only communicate in those languages.

Actually, since 2011 Welsh has had official language status in Wales.

GobbledyGook

Mojisola wrote: »

The main problem with keeping out children of assembly is that a lot of school notices are given out and whole school issues are talked about. Any children who are withdrawn are going to miss out on information that everyone else is given.

Only in a school that is disorganised or that is trying to 'persuade' parents not to withdraw their children.

Even in the school where I withdrew my girls that is not something I ever experienced. Notices are normally given out in the class as it's far easier for a teacher to keep a note of who wasn't in the day the notice was given out than trying to do it on a whole school level.

Also whole school issues should be talked about in non-religious assemblies or children withdrawn from those parts should be brought to the last 5/10 minutes of them by whoever is supervising them if whole school issues are being mentioned.

Any school who allows a child to miss out on vital information because they've been withdrawn from religious worship is failing that child and it simply should not happen. If it did it would suggest bigger organisational issues imo.

daisiegg

notanewuser wrote: »

Point is that anybody in "the system" should be allowed to question it. Yes, the answer might be "we're happy with what we're doing because......." or "the reason we do this like this is..........", but in my view it should never be "we've always done this, so why would we change it?"

I'm not saying people should not question things. Just that people need to accept they can't always change everything they want to.

Morglin

notanewuser wrote: »

Point is that anybody in "the system" should be allowed to question it. Yes, the answer might be "we're happy with what we're doing because......." or "the reason we do this like this is..........", but in my view it should never be "we've always done this, so why would we change it?"

You can question what you like, but as your child gets older, and you get more experience with our education systems, you will learn that nothing much changes lol :whistle:

Unless you are very rich, and can opt out, the system will be what it decides to be.

However, that's ok, because your child will grow to realise not everything in life is a garden of roses!

Lin