Sharing/conflict resolution at nursery school?

notanewuser

Janepig wrote: »

Do you speak Welsh yourself NANU? That may be why alot of it has washed over me - I go to school concerts,etc, and can only just about retain a little bit of an understanding of what they're singing about (I have some grasp of the language - I get by). I'm sure if they were singing it in English I'd be doing my nut!

I did. Have A level welsh, but sadly years working in London and noone in the family to converse with has made me very rusty. But it's slowly coming back, so hopefully by the time DD gets the complicated homework I'll be able to understand it. My understanding is better than my spoken welsh.

notanewuser

Nicki wrote: »

I'm bemused Janepig as to why the fact your son was taught the story of the parting of the Red Sea would have you developing Tourette's. Isn't this the kind of general knowledge we send children to school to acquire. He'd look a bit daft (and uneducated) if someone referred to the parting of the Red Sea in his adult life and he'd never heard of it and asked what the expression meant.

I genuinely don't get why knowing the origin of say "crossing the rubicon" and acting that out, complete with roman soldiers would be ok but not "parting the Red Sea". I just find it a massive overreaction. Not least because the story is as important in Judaism as in Christianity so hardly indoctrinating into one faith anyway!

There was a thread on here recently where several posters genuinely thought the phrase was "don't know you from atom". So maybe science is starting to take over from christianity anyway!

saidan

NANU

if you cannot get your child into a different school, there is little choice - you either ask for her to be withdrawn, let her partake and explain at home that this is not your religion etc, but one she can explore and choose if she wants, or home school. its tricky i agree.

I only ask what you feel the harm is as my SIL teaches at a strict catholic school in Birmingham - the majority of the children are muslim :cool: their parents choose the school for the high moral code (expected uniforms, behaviour etc), the quality of teaching and the opportunities the school gives their child. They could go to the local state school which has no Christian ethos at all, my SIL school pray every day to God (not allah) and attend the catholic church for religious festivals as expected in the Christian year. They obviously find no harm in allowing their child to partake - I expect they are expected to attend mosque and learn about allah from their parents. My SIL reports no conversions so far - she teachers year 6.

Nicki

notanewuser wrote: »

There was a thread on here recently where several posters genuinely thought the phrase was "don't know you from atom". So maybe science is starting to take over from christianity anyway!

I recall that thread.

I don't recall the two posters who thought this was the correct version of the expression being in any way congratulated for their intelligence or education however . Is that the reaction you would wish for your daughter should she make similar slips in the future?

saidan

and our country is a Christian country as the head of our country - the Queen, is also head of the Christian church.

notanewuser

saidan wrote: »

NANU

if you cannot get your child into a different school, there is little choice - you either ask for her to be withdrawn, let her partake and explain at home that this is not your religion etc, but one she can explore and choose if she wants, or home school. its tricky i agree.

I only ask what you feel the harm is as my SIL teaches at a strict catholic school in Birmingham - the majority of the children are muslim :cool: their parents choose the school for the high moral code (expected uniforms, behaviour etc), the quality of teaching and the opportunities the school gives their child. They could go to the local state school which has no Christian ethos at all, my SIL school pray every day to God (not allah) and attend the catholic church for religious festivals as expected in the Christian year. They obviously find no harm in allowing their child to partake - I expect they are expected to attend mosque and learn about allah from their parents. My SIL reports no conversions so far - she teachers year 6.

I just think that secular education should be a valid choice. It's 2014 and we're part of the free world!

notanewuser

saidan wrote: »

and our country is a Christian country as the head of our country - the Queen, is also head of the Christian church.

Apart from her face being on stamps and money, she doesn't have much influence on my daily life either!

notanewuser

Nicki wrote: »

I recall that thread.

I don't recall the two posters who thought this was the correct version of the expression being in any way congratulated for their intelligence or education however . Is that the reaction you would wish for your daughter should she make similar slips in the future?

:rotfl:true. Is it not enough to learn bible stories in RE lessons? Do kids need to act them out?

Janepig

Nicki wrote: »

I'm bemused Janepig as to why the fact your son was taught the story of the parting of the Red Sea would have you developing Tourette's. Isn't this the kind of general knowledge we send children to school to acquire. He'd look a bit daft (and uneducated) if someone referred to the parting of the Red Sea in his adult life and he'd never heard of it and asked what the expression meant.

I genuinely don't get why knowing the origin of say "crossing the rubicon" and acting that out, complete with roman soldiers would be ok but not "parting the Red Sea". I just find it a massive overreaction. Not least because the story is as important in Judaism as in Christianity so hardly indoctrinating into one faith anyway!

It's a fair point but knowing the school (and the teacher concerned) it wouldn't necessarily have been done from an education point of view. I know that she was a fairly religious woman (and a very nice person she was too!) and it was just one more thing in what I believe to be an education already very christianity heavy in what isn't a "faith school".

I don't think that knowing the story of Adam and Eve would have stopped someone from thinking that "I don't know you from atom" was the correct version of the saying. To my mind it was a mistake in a similar vein as the many people who say "should of" instead of "should have".

Jx

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thorsoak wrote: »

No, not because you have no faith but because you feel that your views are more important than the views of other people - you seem to be belittling those who do have a faith of any sort.

People who wish to raise their children in a particular religion can do so outside the hours of 9-3 mon-fri.

Schools aren't places of worship, they're places of learning. We shouldn't tell our children that anything is true without there being at least a bit of evidence behind it.

Why is asking for a faith-neutral environment in schools considered to be 'imposing atheist views'? The fact is that having prayer and worship in schools is the imposition.