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  • Waves_and_Smiles
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    edited 31 July 2014 at 7:05PM
    Aww, whitewing I am so sorry. It sounds as if she was psycho-dynamically trained. Therapists trained that way act as a blank sheet of paper for the client to write on and will tend to wait in silence for someone to speak. I have had 9 years psycho-dynamic therapy and it did help me a lot but for someone inexperienced in methods it isn't always the best starting point, interactive approaches tend to work much better. Psycho-analysis which I have also had is even odder, the therapist sits behind you so that you cannot see them as well as staying mostly silent. That also helped me a lot but it tends to be progression from interactive counselling to psycho-dynamic to psycho-analysis. It can be very unhelpful to start with the more silent ones.
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  • haybel19
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    I have no idea, Pyxis. It may have been that something nice happened involving those numbers as a child, it may have been something I read. I know one of the very difficult rituals came from something on tv, I remember it happening when I was 7. I know that I like even numbers because I cannot cope with anything being left out alone.

    Thank you so much for your kind words, it does help to hear that someone believes I don't have to repeat them. OCD can make you feel very alone.

    I have OCD too. You are not alone - compared to most mine is on the mild side but I totally agree it is exhausting. It takes me at least 15 minutes to put Max my dog to bed in the kitchen just in case I have left anything on (i obsessively check switches and have to count them as I do it) and in case i leave doors unlocked, oven on etc. It is a relief when my partner who works nights is home at weekends as then I dont have to do it.

    I am not too bothered about checking the front door at night i dont know why. My checking is always centred around things which are very important to me such as Max and my responsibillity to check he is safe. I will empty and refill his water bowl 20 times just to make sure it is absolutely clean and obsessively check our back gate to make sure it is locked... it is as a secure as it possible can be. I have bins either side of the gate. and even have his dog house over the alley way leading to gate so he cannot get anywhere near it.

    These are just a few examples although some areas are completely unaffected such as no OCD relating to little one (i wonder if because she came along after treatment?- and none relating to my partner although he was around before treatment. I find i have not developed any new ones at all since treatment but the old ones are ingrained. They are very draining.
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  • whitewing
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    I forgot to say that I had a polish treat today with DD. We were in town earlier on our way to the park (again), and stopped at a small cafe to get a drink to take. I didn't realise it was a polish place and they had this huge bag of corn puffs. Think wotsits but golden and straight rather than orange, and huge - 20cm long each and as thick as a cigar. DD loved them. There were a couple of friendly crows in the park too so they came up surprisingly close and had some too. I don't usually feed birds in a picnic area but they were beautiful.
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  • Waves_and_Smiles
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    edited 31 July 2014 at 7:26PM
    They really are draining, haybel I am so sorry that you have to go through them. I haven't any about some things which I thought would be obvious choices like my physical health. There are no rituals based around that at all. To an extent it seems random which would tie in with it biochemical in nature.

    It used to take 30 minutes to leave the house due to the amount of rituals that I had to complete beforehand, some up to 30 times before I felt safe. Sometimes I got out of the door but didn't feel secure so I would return to the house and go through them all again. It can be crippling and have such a negative impact on your life.

    What a lovely trip out, whitewing! I would love those, I am rather fond of Wotsits or anything cheesy for that matter! Cheese is my weakness, there isn't a type that I don't love.
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  • haybel19
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    They really are draining, haybel I am so sorry that you have to go through them. I haven't any about some things which I thought would be obvious choices like my physical health. There are no rituals based around that at all. To an extent it seems random which would tie in with it biochemical in nature.

    It used to take 30 minutes to leave the house due to the amount of rituals that I had to complete beforehand, some up to 30 times before I felt safe. Sometimes I got out of the door but didn't feel secure so I would return to the house and go through them all again. It can be crippling and have such a negative impact on your life.

    Thank you WaS. It takes me forever to leave the house too- as i have to do all the bedtime checks I do with Max before i can leave him in the kitchen. Then check the front door tons of times and then tons more because I will worry that I have not done so properly.
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  • Mine used to be my keys and locking the door. I wouldn't hold them in my hand out of fear that I would drop them before I shut the door and lock them inside. So I would put them in my bag and check 7 times to make sure that they were in there. If I got distracted during the checking then I would have to take them out and start again. The same applied to my phone and anything else that I needed to bring with me. I also had to close the door with my right hand in one determined movement, if it wasn't done like that I would have to open it and repeat. Once outside of the door I would have to check it was locked by pushing it several times. If I thought it felt loose I would then have reopen the door and go through everything from the keys onwards again! It took ages to go anywhere.
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  • whitewing
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    Aww, whitewing I am so sorry. It sounds as if she was psycho-dynamically trained. Therapists trained that way act as a blank sheet of paper for the client to write on and will tend to wait in silence for someone to speak. I have had 9 years psycho-dynamic therapy and it did help me a lot but for someone inexperienced in methods it isn't always the best starting point, interactive approaches tend to work much better. Psycho-analysis which I have also had is even odder, the therapist sits behind you so that you cannot see them as well as staying mostly silent. That also helped me a lot but it tends to be progression from interactive counselling to psycho-dynamic to psycho-analysis. It can be very unhelpful to start with the more silent ones.

    I think it was made more difficult that at that time no one appeared to tell you the diagnosis. So I didn't actually understand that I was ill and even my unhappiness seemed to me to be within the realms of normality of a major life change. I didn't know about my diagnosis for another 5 years and even then I found out by accident when I was pregnant. It was over a decade later even than that that I got a proper diagnosis and only then because I pushed it.

    For me now, it is better knowing that not knowing. I still wish I didn't have any of it, but at least I can move forward.
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  • Pyxis
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    Cheese! Mmmmmm,Mmm,m,mmmm, Cheese!

    I love cheese! Like you, all sorts!

    I like a good quality Emmental to snack on, with cherry tomatoes.

    I also like the blue-veined cheeses.
    And goats cheese.
    However, the soft cheeses like Brie, I only like them when they're firm, not ripe and runny.

    I get a lovely Sardinian pecorino with my organic boxes. It's a fresh one, not hard like Parmesan, so you can snack on it. It's delish!

    I can't have milk or yogurt, so cheese is my main calcium source.

    Regarding the number one and things being left on their own, WaS, had it not occurred to you that some things might like to be on their own?
    Take hamsters. They're solitary. Put two together and they'll fight to the death!
    Take pillar boxes. They revel in solitude! You never see two together!
    Some things are better as a one: take a statement table centrepiece, say a nice piece of art glass. Would be horrible as a pair in the middle of the table!
    Comets travel on their own, never in pairs. And little old Moon would freak out if another moon popped up; it likes being our ONE moon!

    Even things that were part of a set, now that they're the only one left, maybe it's a relief! Maybe they didn't like being a sextuplet, and are much happier being an only tumbler!
    Maybe some things crave the single life! Hermitude! Maybe they want to stand out of the crowd!

    One is good, WaS! One is noble, proud, regal, isn't one! :D
    One stands tall!
    One is the beginning of everything!
    Let the ones of this world be free!
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  • lostinrates
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    I like ones. I feel a bit like a one. I think fir( DH) and I are probably an 11 together, or maybe a 13, and a 1 and a 3 apart.

    As a one I'd hate to be forced into a group. So long as I could be with my three occasionally!
  • You have both given me a new perspective on one's! I should have thought of that really having hamsters, they are only happy on their own. I need to try to alter my thinking that one doesn't mean lonely, abandoned and rejected and that there are good things about it. I think I need to make myself a long list of why one's can be good and possibly move onto other odd numbers.
    Until one has loved an animal a part of one's soul remains unawakened - Anatole France

    If I knew that the world would end tomorrow, I would still plant apple trees today - Martin Luther King
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