UK CPM Parking charge notice for parking in our own space with no permit displayed

knightrider14

Ok so I've received a parking ticket attached to the windscreen of our car for parking in my own space at home. I own the apartment and the space. Unfortunately my permit must've fell down when I shut the door (though I know this isn't an excuse)

I've read the NEWBIES sticky and as the parking ticket is from UKCPM I've started a new thread although I cant attach a picture of the sign as I'm a newbie and not allowed. There was no parking company in place when I bought the place and therefore no mention of having to display a permit in the deeds of my apartment.

We do have problems with parking as there is no gate and the spaces are just open to all so it has proven useful having this company in the past although a gate would be a much better alternative I feel.

I'd much appreciate if someone could help with how I should go about disputing this.

Thanks!

da_rule

The first thing to do is to look at the first appeal template in the Newbies sticky thread, but wait for the notice to keeper to arrive through the post.

You own the flat, do you therefore own the parking space? If so, tell the managing agent etc that you do not consent to your private property being bound by any agreement that you were not a party to.

knightrider14

Ok brilliant, I assume I'll receive the notice to keeper before the 28 days is up on the appeal deadline?

Yes we own the parking space too so I will do as you say and inform the management company.

Thanks for your help!

da_rule

No, you'll receive the next letter after the 28 days. They have to serve it within 56 days of the date you received the notice on the vehicle, but not within 28 days. But don't worry, you get an appeal period from this notice as well (as well as an offer to pay the discounted rate).

The_Slithy_Tove

knightrider14 wrote: »

Yes we own the parking space too so I will do as you say and inform the management company.

Read this thread for your ultimate option:
http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?377246-UKCPS-liable-for-trespass

knightrider14

Ok, I'll keep an eye out for it. Out of interest what's the reason for waiting for the notice to keeper to come through before appealing to UKCPM? Cheers

knightrider14

The Slithy Tove - Yes I've read this thread before great news that someone stood up to them. I had a parking notice pre 2012 and ignored it successfully so I'm more than happy to try and get back at them but I'm not sure I want the hassle, time and money of pursuing them even if I'd get the money back at the end though I'd love to do it.

da_rule

There are 2 main reasons:

1) The notice has to comply with the Protection of Freedoms Act, which many don't. Therefore waiting just gives them more rope from which they can hang themselves.
2) What you have is known as a 'notice to driver' and we advise that identifying the driver should be avoided where ever possible. Therefore replying to a notice to driver can imply who was 'driving'.

da_rule

knightrider14 wrote: »

The Slithy Tove - Yes I've read this thread before great news that someone stood up to them. I had a parking notice pre 2012 and ignored it successfully so I'm more than happy to try and get back at them but I'm not sure I want the hassle, time and money of pursuing them even if I'd get the money back at the end though I'd love to do it.

Once you have resolved the matter you could always send them a letter excluding them from your property and warning them that any further transgressions will be dealt with via the courts. You could even ask for a bit of compensation.

The_Deep

As I am sure you will be aware, you do nor need to display a permit, although it may suit you to do so.

Personally, I would not bother to appeal, either to them or POPLA, and would love them to take me to court, but I am an awkward !!!!!! and thrive on controversy.

My advise would be to send the ticket to the managing agents and instruct them to cancel it, this company is not hired to try to gouge money from owners for made up reasons, and is breaching your "quiet enjoyment" of your property.

Half_way

A few questions:
Is there any agreement between you and the management company to allow a private parking company onto your land?

Do you approve of the parking companies actions on your land?

and for now take a read of this http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?377246-UKPC-liable-for-trespass-**SUCCESS**&