The rise of Extremism in Economically tough times

Graham_Devon

Generali wrote: »

That's just an assertion. It's meaningless. .

I'd suggest, and the polling recently would suggest it's a pretty accurate assertion though.

We need to look at this as a country. Not doing so, and simply telling everyone they are wrong is not going to help matters and will only lead to further gains for parties such as UKIP.

We need to remember, this isn't just a British thing. It's Europe wide.

CLAPTON

Generali wrote: »

That's just an assertion. It's meaningless.

I can say the sun will rise in the north tomorrow. Doesn't make it so.

The above is an assertion by Generali.

does it make it meaningless?

Generali

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I'd suggest, and the polling recently would suggest it's a pretty accurate assertion though.

We need to look at this as a country. Not doing so, and simply telling everyone they are wrong is not going to help matters and will only lead to further gains for parties such as UKIP.

We need to remember, this isn't just a British thing. It's Europe wide.

No, recent polling shows that a lot of people have been sucked in by a nasty and pernicious lie.

That lots of people are wrong doesn't make them right by critical mass. Loads of Americans believe in creationism. They're still credulous idiots, there are just morr of them than there were.

Bantex_2

Generali wrote: »

No, recent polling shows that a lot of people have been sucked in by a nasty and pernicious lie.

That lots of people are wrong doesn't make them right by critical mass. Loads of Americans believe in creationism. They're still credulous idiots, there are just morr of them than there were.

I don't believe that many have been "sucked in", more a matter of people feel more confident in expressing views that were somehow considered unacceptable a year or two ago.

Remember Brown PM at the time) branding that woman a bigot just because she wished to discuss immogration,

Graham_Devon

Generali wrote: »

No, recent polling shows that a lot of people have been sucked in by a nasty and pernicious lie.

And this is the point that any reasoned discussion trying to look at how it actually effects people, ends.

Everyone has a personal opinion. Everyone feels effects differently. Those differing to yours have not been "sucked into a lie". It just appears an easy way for you to assume you are right and write off any other opinion or reasoning.

Same as labelling people as racists should they have a differing opinion to yours.

Seabee42

Generali wrote: »

No, recent polling shows that a lot of people have been sucked in by a nasty and pernicious lie.

That lots of people are wrong doesn't make them right by critical mass. Loads of Americans believe in creationism. They're still credulous idiots, there are just morr of them than there were.

So what is the lie that there has only been 1 immigrant in the last 15 years he built his own house and employs thousands?

Hissing_sid

Generali wrote: »

No, recent polling shows that a lot of people have been sucked in by a nasty and pernicious lie.

That lots of people are wrong doesn't make them right by critical mass. Loads of Americans believe in creationism. They're still credulous idiots, there are just morr of them than there were.

Yeah well, calling someone an idiot is unlikely to bring them around to your point of view.

Just sayin....

setmefree2

CLAPTON wrote: »

In London now, it is very difficult for anyone born there (irrespective of race, religion, creed or sexual orientation) to actually buy somewhere to live, near their place of birth and where they grew up.

That's just a load of BS.

setmefree2

GeorgeHowell wrote: »

But judging by the recent election results there's a lot of not very happy bunnies out there.

Or a load of racists.....

setmefree2

Seabee42 wrote: »

So what is the lie that there has only been 1 immigrant in the last 15 years he built his own house and employs thousands?

The lie is that you will be better off if the immigrants go home/don't come.

You won't - you will be worse off.

Imagine. The USA had 3 million inhabitants in 1787 when they kicked out the Brits. Now they have 313 million inhabitants. Do you think they would be the country that they are if they had remained a country with a population of 3 million?