Landlord Won't Fix Oven

alta

Annie1960 wrote: »

How would you cook a leg of lamb on a hob? I don't think a hob is adequate (unless the tenant agreed to this when they signed the contract). I bet the OP would not have signed if they had been told at the beginning that there would be no oven, only a hob.

A hob is adequate whilst the ll is looking at the problem, I did not say anything about not permanently having an oven.

Annie1960

alta wrote: »

A hob is adequate whilst the ll is looking at the problem, I did not say anything about not permanently having an oven.

Yes, as a temporary measure, but the OP was suggesting that the LL had not bothered with previous repairs, so was not expecting the oven to be repaired.

G_M

mrmike1989 wrote: »

1) It has indeed been established that he has to repair (see various posts), because of this obligation that he has agreed to per our contract,
a time-frame is indeed reasonable.

2) Yes, I think the best way to start things off would be to write a friendly letter, but if I feel that his time-frame is not acceptable, or he
fails to deliver and gives excuses like with the boiler, then a more formal letter will be appropriate.

3) Seeming is not good enough because of the LL's history, the boiler seemed to be getting done, and still has not been after many months.

Legal Advice:
a) I can have the repair work done and bill him, and he DOES have to pay. (see Annie1960's latest response)
b) If he gets frustrated/stressed at his inability to be a lawful LL, then that is his problem, not mine.

Q, What do you base this claim on?
A, It's based on the contract, please see my first post, the bit where it says LL's have a responsibility to repair faulty electrical & mechanical things.

A hob complies with what act specifically? A contractual obligation has been established. A temporary lack of oven is acceptable, however, the LL has shown previously, that his definition of 'temporary' can be more accurately interpreted as 'permanently'.

I wouldn't call that a free cooking tip! More like a fire hazard!

Sorry - my mistake. I didn't re-read the thread and was confusing your problem with another poster's issue.

Ignore me!

[Deleted User]

Install your own oven then when you move take it with you/sell it. I would do.

[Deleted User]

lol, its what I have done.., but kept the original oven in the shed so it can be reinstalled when I move out. Mind you, its huge but thankfully I have a large shed.

yasmup

mrmike1989 wrote: »

... The Landlord didn't want to go through an 'official' inventory, because it costs money and I get the impression from him that he likes to save as much as possible. ...

An inventory doesn't have to cost anything other than a bit of time & effort; it's just a list of items that the LL and tenant agree to as being supplied. (usually it will also include a statement of condition too)

If the landlord is prepared to waste his hard earned money on expensive letting agents fees (which is where any additional cost may occur for an inventory) then he doesn't strike me as someone that "likes to save as much as possible"

mrmike1989

deannatrois wrote: »

lol, its what I have done.., but kept the original oven in the shed so it can be reinstalled when I move out. Mind you, its huge but thankfully I have a large shed.

The whole point in taking the oven when moving out is so that it can be sold to recover costs that were paid in rent for maintenance that had not been carried out, no good giving it back to him.

mrmike1989

yasmup wrote: »

An inventory doesn't have to cost anything other than a bit of time & effort; it's just a list of items that the LL and tenant agree to as being supplied. (usually it will also include a statement of condition too)

If the landlord is prepared to waste his hard earned money on expensive letting agents fees (which is where any additional cost may occur for an inventory) then he doesn't strike me as someone that "likes to save as much as possible"

This is the LL's first time renting, so that's probably why he went with the letting agency, however he did say he wished he hadn't, because they were charging him for all sorts of silly things, that's why he refused their inventory check, I presume he made his own list, or trusted that I would not trash the place.

He is definitely a guy who likes to save money, or else he would have paid a professional to come and fix out boiler immediately, instead of getting one of his friends to bodge it, same goes for oven. Yes, we all like to save money, but when your tenants are paying good money for a service, you damn well better provide it!

mrmike1989

Deleted_User wrote: »

Install your own oven then when you move take it with you/sell it. I would do.

I would happily do this, as long as the LL agreed to reduce our rent so that I could buy one.

Annie1960

mrmike1989 wrote: »

He is definitely a guy who likes to save money, or else he would have paid a professional to come and fix out boiler immediately, instead of getting one of his friends to bodge it,

It is an offence for anyone except an GasSafe qualified engineer to carry out boiler repairs.

http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk

Was his friend qualified?