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Landlord Won't Fix Oven

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  • Annie1960
    Annie1960 Posts: 3,009 Forumite
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    Ask him how much he will reduce your rent by to enable you to buy takeaways, as you can't use the oven you are paying him for.

    As long as it is only your problem, he will not be bothered. You need to make it his problem to get him to act.
  • mrmike1989
    mrmike1989 Posts: 54 Forumite
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    edited 23 May 2014 at 9:23PM
    Annie1960 wrote: »
    Ask him how much he will reduce your rent by to enable you to buy takeaways, as you can't use the oven you are paying him for.

    As long as it is only your problem, he will not be bothered. You need to make it his problem to get him to act.

    I was thinking of this and also charging him for our oven food that may get wasted. I was thinking of just buying a new oven all together and sending him the bill, and I still need to bill him for the electric heaters I had to buy (to heat our newborn) when the boiler broke.

    Unfortunately, I am not skilled enough in law to be able to do such things, and legal advice costs!
  • alta
    alta Posts: 100 Forumite
    You say that your boiler is not working. Do you have a valid Gas safety certificate? This HAS by law to carried out be a qualified Gas Safe engineer? if not then he is breaking the law. He should fix the oven if it is built in, in fact if any white goods are in the property when your tenancy starts, unless its mentioned in your tenancy agreement otherwise, the landlord is responsible for the replacement in the case of breakdown as long as it is not the tenant that has damaged it.
    As you still have the use of the hobs as a cooking source, your oven will not be deemed as an "emergency" as you have adequate facilities for heating your food.
    If you have not heard anything from him By Tuesday after the bank holiday then you will need to contact him again and ask that he give you a timescale for the oven to be fixed.
    Let us know about the boiler.
    This is my opinion, a little knowledge from experience.
  • mrmike1989
    mrmike1989 Posts: 54 Forumite
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    alta wrote: »
    You say that your boiler is not working. Do you have a valid Gas safety certificate? This HAS by law to carried out be a qualified Gas Safe engineer? if not then he is breaking the law. He should fix the oven if it is built in, in fact if any white goods are in the property when your tenancy starts, unless its mentioned in your tenancy agreement otherwise, the landlord is responsible for the replacement in the case of breakdown as long as it is not the tenant that has damaged it.
    As you still have the use of the hobs as a cooking source, your oven will not be deemed as an "emergency" as you have adequate facilities for heating your food.
    If you have not heard anything from him By Tuesday after the bank holiday then you will need to contact him again and ask that he give you a timescale for the oven to be fixed.
    Let us know about the boiler.

    Yes I was issued with a gas safety certificate when the tenancy started, however, I was a little dubious as to the authenticity of the gas engineer. The reason for this is that there was one of those carbon monoxide stickers on the inside of the door of cupboard that the boiler was in, it reads, "danger if spot is dark". The spot was dark, but also dated 2008. So I went out to buy a carbon monoxide alarm, the alarm hasn't gone off so I assume everything is ok and that the certificate is genuine and carried out by a competent engineer. The boiler does work, but every now and then it turns off and won't fire up again, I eventually noticed that if you leave it off for 10 minutes or so, it will fire up again, but this is a pain in the backside because sometimes you don't realise until the shower won't warm up and have to wait for the tank to heat up again, not to mention the inefficiency thus increase in gas bill. This started happening when it was winter, and we often awoke to a freezing cold house. It's not exactly an emergency, but still an inconvenience.
  • alta
    alta Posts: 100 Forumite
    Yes I was issued with a gas safety certificate when the tenancy started,


    When did the tenancy start? the certificate has to be done every 12 months?
    This is my opinion, a little knowledge from experience.
  • Annie1960
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    G_M wrote: »
    Seems to me you have a reasonable LL. He is doing what I would do - coming to look. See if he can fix. And if not (hopefully), either get a chappie in or replacing the oven.

    Or chappess? This is the twenty-first century, and we have equal opps these days!
  • Annie1960
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    alta wrote: »
    As you still have the use of the hobs as a cooking source, your oven will not be deemed as an "emergency" as you have adequate facilities for heating your food.

    How would you cook a leg of lamb on a hob? I don't think a hob is adequate (unless the tenant agreed to this when they signed the contract). I bet the OP would not have signed if they had been told at the beginning that there would be no oven, only a hob.
  • mrmike1989
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    alta wrote: »
    Yes I was issued with a gas safety certificate when the tenancy started,


    When did the tenancy start? the certificate has to be done every 12 months?

    Tenancy started around 8 months ago so it's valid.
  • silvercar
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    Annie1960 wrote: »
    How would you cook a leg of lamb on a hob? I don't think a hob is adequate (unless the tenant agreed to this when they signed the contract). I bet the OP would not have signed if they had been told at the beginning that there would be no oven, only a hob.

    Agreed, but the landlord isn't saying no leg of lamb for ever, just until the oven is fixed.
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  • mrmike1989
    mrmike1989 Posts: 54 Forumite
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    Annie1960 wrote: »
    How would you cook a leg of lamb on a hob? I don't think a hob is adequate (unless the tenant agreed to this when they signed the contract). I bet the OP would not have signed if they had been told at the beginning that there would be no oven, only a hob.

    The LL advised us to use the grill in the oven to heat the oven up, using a baking tray under the grill so that it doesn't make our food go crispy, and to just guess the temperature lol.

    The hob is adequate to survive, but I'm looking to enjoy the oven foods I've bought, I usually have chicken in a flavour bag in the oven for tea, can't do that in the pan, or my flipping chips, but hey, atleast the veg can be cooked! Yay........:(
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