When is a 'new' car not new?

globalds

how many registered keepers would change a car into not being new ?

motorguy

globalds wrote: »

how many registered keepers would change a car into not being new ?

Not being new would be if it had been registered and driven by someone else before the op

That's what makes pre reg different from pre owned

Pre reg is a paperwork reference

AdrianC

napoleon1769 wrote: »

Are you seriously saying that, if I were to sell the car this evening

If not for this, would you be even considering selling the car this evening?

The nominal value of the car at some random point of time is not relevant. The only relevant figure is the difference at the time that you would have sold it in the normal course of events.

napoleon1769

motorguy wrote: »

+1

The op has neatly side stepped whether or not it was in the terms and conditions by saying it was on a link they didn't view.

Handy that.

Please re-read post 10...

"Nowhere, even on the terms and conditions webpage, did it state that it was pre-registered"

globalds

motorguy wrote: »

Not being new would be if it had been registered and driven by someone else before the op

That's what makes pre reg different from pre owned

Pre reg is a paperwork reference

So ..Am I reading correctly ? The OP is saying that his vehicle has been pre registered for nearly 2 months ?

I chased the DVLA continuously and, after two months, the DVLA confirmed that the broker company was the registered keeper. They are now arranging for me to become the registered keeper, but I will now be the second keeper on the log book.

AdrianC

globalds wrote: »

So ..Am I reading correctly ? The OP is saying that his vehicle has been pre registered for nearly 2 months ?

...during all of which time, the car has been to all other intents and purposes "his". It's been in his possession and available solely for his use. The _only_ difference here is one of the details on the V5C.

AdrianC

napoleon1769 wrote: »

Please re-read post 10...
"Nowhere, even on the terms and conditions webpage, did it state that it was pre-registered"

...which should probably be read in conjunction with post 25...

napoleon1769 wrote: »

SG27 wrote:

Was it one of the brokers that specifically says you are the first registered keeper?

Not explicitly. It said 'new' on the website, they confirmed it was straight from the factory over the phone and the invoice included a "first registration fee". I probably should have asked the question, but I assumed that 'new' meant no previous keepers.

So we're all agreed that the Ts & Cs didn't say anything about the registered keepers? Neither that you would be the first nor that you wouldn't be.

Inch_High_2

napoleon1769 wrote: »

Please re-read post 10...

"Nowhere, even on the terms and conditions webpage, did it state that it was pre-registered"

Did you sign anything or was this all done online?

napoleon1769

globalds wrote: »

So ..Am I reading correctly ? The OP is saying that his vehicle has been pre registered for nearly 2 months ?

Yes, that is correct. I have been doing some research online and apparently dodgy broker companies do this to get the best fleet discounts from the dealerships. They usually keep the log books for 3 to 6 months and claim that they have the vehicle in their possession in case they get audited by the dealership. I guess one option is to get in touch with the dealership and let them know that this 'fleet' company is probably breaching their terms and conditions?

Inch_High wrote: »

Did you sign anything or was this all done online?

The order form was emailed to me as a PDF. I signed it, scanned it and emailed it back to them.

jimjames

napoleon1769 wrote: »

Thanks for all of the replies guys!

It seems that the opinion is divided, which has confused me further. I'm not really willing to accept that 'new' means 'one previous keeper' and I'm even more annoyed by the broker's dismissive attitude.

I have looked after the vehicle inside and out, but it now has between 3K and 4K miles on the clock. If I try to return this vehicle under the Distance Selling Regulations, could they refuse due to the mileage? I must stress that I only became aware of the issue today, so I haven't delayed things unnecessarily.

You might have had a case for refund at 8 miles but 4000 is going to be very hard I'd imagine.