Section 21 Notice and wanting to buy

spooky69

DaftyDuck wrote: »

buicca21 - I assume by "day" the OP means the day of monthly contract, but current year...

Correct of course.

spooky69

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

"It is simply not going to be possible to move out as holidays are booked over the next couple of months and the additional rent deposit required plus costs of moving would consequently remove the ability to get a mortgage."

This is a bit worrying. It makes it sound like you're not in a position to buy a property at all.

Still, the issue of the agent being a grasping so-and-so in attempting to get the fee out of the landlord isn't surprising but not your problem.

Sit tight and wait for the landlord/agent to get a court-date for possession. This could take several months. Meanwhile WRITE to the landlord at whatever address they have for the owner on the Land Registry website and put your proposal to them.

It's just a question of timing and multiple moves and tying up thousands in deposits for potentially very short-term rental needs within days of paying for some serious holidays and not a matter of affordability.

Is there no code of conduct or law that requires them to act in the best interests of someone other than themselves? Sorry, that's just my sense of humour... ;-)

spooky69

pmlindyloo wrote: »

Have you read the link I gave you?

I can't tell whether your Section 21(4) is correct as I don't know the start of your original tenancy agreement and then following on from this the start date of your periodic tenancy.

If you can't work it out from the link I gave you then you need to tell us when your tenancy began.

Is your deposit protected and were you given the correct information about it?

I have given that information. It started 8 years ago for a 12-month period and went onto periodic thereafter as no other contract was signed. The section 21(4) that has been served has the correct date (checked against the original tenancy agreement).

pmlindyloo

spooky69 wrote: »

I have given that information. It started 8 years ago for a 12-month period and went onto periodic thereafter as no other contract was signed. The section 21(4) that has been served has the correct date (checked against the original tenancy agreement).

We need the date!

Annie1960

spooky69 wrote: »

Is there no code of conduct or law that requires them to act in the best interests of someone other than themselves? Sorry, that's just my sense of humour... ;-)

Is the LA a member of ARLA? If so, see para XI of the Arla code of conduct.

http://www.nfopp-regulation.co.uk/media/339959/arla-byelaw-appendix-b.pdf

There are a few other similar schemes to ARLA - have a look at the LA's advertising and see if they have any of the logos.

lulu650

I bought my son's rented flat from his landlady. She welcomed the continuing rent and we were pleased with the furnishings staying in situ. I'm sure his landlady may think otherwise but I did feel we probably paid a little over the market price for the convenience of my son not moving out and being tied in with a new rental.


If your landlord hasn't given you first refusal, I'm inclined to think he's happy to lose your rent money in order to spend on the property and command a good price.


You say that the agent has already contacted the landlord and he's not interested in you staying in the house when it's put on the market. Couldn't you get some valuations and prepare a cost analysis for him and ask the agent to pass this on. Point out the continuing rental, whether you have a mortgage in place etc. etc.


I can't find your answer to looking for more information from the Land Registry site for the owner's details.

spooky69

pmlindyloo wrote: »

We need the date!

I'm not sure why the specific date matters. The date that has been stated in the notice is the last day of a rental period 2 months after the last day of the current rental period and that would, unfortunately, seem to be issued correctly.

As far as I can tell a section 21(4) is issued where there is a period tenancy agreement and this is also therefore correct.

I think this bit has been resolved.

spooky69

lulu650 wrote: »

I bought my son's rented flat from his landlady. She welcomed the continuing rent and we were pleased with the furnishings staying in situ. I'm sure his landlady may think otherwise but I did feel we probably paid a little over the market price for the convenience of my son not moving out and being tied in with a new rental.


If your landlord hasn't given you first refusal, I'm inclined to think he's happy to lose your rent money in order to spend on the property and command a good price.


You say that the agent has already contacted the landlord and he's not interested in you staying in the house when it's put on the market. Couldn't you get some valuations and prepare a cost analysis for him and ask the agent to pass this on. Point out the continuing rental, whether you have a mortgage in place etc. etc.


I can't find your answer to looking for more information from the Land Registry site for the owner's details.

Thanks for that. I have their address and the land line number for that address but they are hardly ever there. That is their official UK residential address though and it is the same as has been stated on the section 21 notice - it's just not possible to get them at that address or the telephone number for that address.

What I said was the that agent has said that they told the landlord - I would not put anything past the agents and as things stand I do not see why they would be entitled to any commission if I purchased the property. I cannot see why an owner would not be interested in at least having a chat about it and especially where some costs and commission might be saved.

spooky69

Annie1960 wrote: »

Is the LA a member of ARLA? If so, see para XI of the Arla code of conduct.

http://www.nfopp-regulation.co.uk/media/339959/arla-byelaw-appendix-b.pdf

There are a few other similar schemes to ARLA - have a look at the LA's advertising and see if they have any of the logos.

Thanks - they are.

lulu650

spooky69 wrote: »

Thanks for that. I have their address and the land line number for that address but they are hardly ever there. That is their official UK residential address though and it is the same as has been stated on the section 21 notice - it's just not possible to get them at that address or the telephone number for that address.
How do you know they won't be in the UK visiting family during the bank holiday weekend/week. Try sending a letter at least. Out of interest, how often have you tried getting in contact with him over the years?

What I said was the that agent has said that they told the landlord - I would not put anything past the agents and as things stand I do not see why they would be entitled to any commission if I purchased the property. I cannot see why an owner would not be interested in at least having a chat about it and especially where some costs and commission might be saved.
Essentially sitting tight in rented accommodation when you've been served notice isn't going to gain his contact details though is it?

You might think differently but personally if buying this property was so important to me I'd be more pro-active in getting in contact now rather than waiting to be kicked out. I can't see any other alternative.