Do Sick People WANT to Get Better?

theoretica

anotheruser wrote: »

Has the rise of ADHD and other illnesses become accepted in our world ...

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Now im talking about feigned/faked/imagined sickness here not real proven cases.

Statements like this make me wonder if we have become too confident in our assumption that science has a name for everything and if it can't be named or detected externally does it exist? Back a few centuries ago people were of course getting ill and many of the names given were not ones we would now accept. I had a relative who was 'sickly' all her life and diagnosed in her 70s when science caught up. Or this woman - what did people who knew her say? http://www.nature.com/news/ancient-bones-show-signs-of-struggle-with-coeliac-disease-1.15128

There is a huge gap between proven and faked - if you took a bunch of people with or without something most people experience like a headache how accurately could modern medicine sort them out?

In smaller communities where everyone knew everyone else the need to classify people would be less. Jane could be accepted as Jane, rather than Jane with X.

the_devil_made_me_do_it

anotheruser wrote: »

Quick question I have just thought of that would be interesting to hear some views on.

Do sick people want to get better?

Has the rise of ADHD and other illnesses become accepted in our world that those people with the illness don't feel the need to get better as they are accepted in society?

Discuss.

Don't think it's anyone's business.

anotheruser

DomRavioli wrote: »

The OP is obviously a troll.

Yes and my post history supports that of course... :whistle:

tomtontom wrote: »

ADHD is not something you 'get better' from, it is something you learn to manage.

OP I'm not sure that you understand what you are asking - would you rather such conditions were not accepted? Do you think there is a magic cure to ADHD et al?

I gave that as an example but there are plenty of other illnesses.
Please point me to the science that says ADHD isn't curable... I know it's a touchy illness with people here which is why I choose not to say anything further about it; I added the example as it was the first I thought of.

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Strange question, perhaps but using the example of ADHD, I see some kids who don't seem to think it is an illness or a problem so they seem almost happy to take advantage, then blame it on their condition, which let's not forget is a pretty new condition.
So it seems to me like they don't want to try and manage it or get better.

Indie_Kid

You can't cure developmental disorders. And you don't know what this cure will do. There's current talk of finding a cure for Autism. But no-one knows what this cure will do. Yes, it may help the people who are non-verbal to talk; but their personality will be affected too and we don't know how it will be affected.

theoretica

Do you want to be exactly like everyone else? Who gets to decide when something is sufficiently far from normal that changing it would count as 'cured'? The person in question? Doctors? Society?

To take a completely different condition, there are many people who meet the medical classification for obese, which is classified as a disease by the American Medical Association, and do not wish to 'get better'.

lostinrates

Indie_Kid wrote: »

You can't cure developmental disorders. And you don't know what this cure will do. There's current talk of finding a cure for Autism. But no-one knows what this cure will do. Yes, it may help the people who are non-verbal to talk; but their personality will be affected too and we don't know how it will be affected.

There have however, been lots of studies in to impacts of nutrition on the management of some developmental disorders. I think failure to try some pretty lengthy adherence to those could be considered ' not doing every thing people can'.

Its also a matter of perspective. My medical team wanted me to try a diet I felt would be pretty detrimental to me at the end of last year. Initially I was resistant then realised that in doing it religiously they would see I was complying and that my experience was backed up by the results.

Bennifred

Bennifred wrote: »

Do sick people want to get better?
Well THIS sick person does! I have primary progressive multiple sclerosis, and I am about to pay a lot of money to go abroad for a treatment which isn't offered in this country (for this condition - you can get it for other things :mad:), in the hope and expectation that the ms progression is halted. It will be a bonus if I do get better.

skint_chick wrote: »

I have an autoimmune disorder that causes breathing difficulties, skin problems, joint pain, fatigue, eye problems and food sensitivities. It's been getting a lot worse over the last 5 years. I would give anything to be back to 'myself' because I'm now struggling to socialise, dealing with frustration and depression and missing out on opportunities I'd love to take but know I'm just not up to it.

On the plus side I have a fabulous OH, a great new job 3 days a week, and a rewarding voluntary position. My circle of friends contains people who understand and my diet has improved. I wouldn't want to give up working because it keeps me positive but having to reduce my hours to be able to maintain my attendance and health has been difficult emotionally and financially. People judge me for working part time because I don't have children and I'm clearly not financially well off enough to be only working part time. I don't visibly look any different for having the disorder and I don't like to tell people unless we're close friends because of the stigma.

I would love to be able to have a career and doing all the things I dreamed I would when I was younger. Having to adjust your entire world is extremely difficult and I hope everyone dealing with health issues finds a solution that works for them

Is your autoimmune disorder haematologically based (eg MS, Lupus, CIDP,etc)? If so, then do look at the treatment I am about to have - HSCT (Haematological Stem Cell Transplant). It is carried out at several UK hospitals (Charing Cross, Guy's and St Thomas', Hallamshire) as well as many reputable centres abroad. Neurologists tend not to advertise it as a viable treatment because of the cost. :mad: Haematologists are very familiar with the procedure, as it is similar to that for some lymphomas and leukemias.

williamhartmann

yup really debatable topic.... some people really takes it for granted...

duchy

Seems like a question that could only be asked by someone who has never suffered a debilitating ilness themselves or have someone close to them who has.

It's a bit like saying if someone loses a leg that they don't want to be able to walk again rather than acknowledging that for some relearning to walk with an artificial limb will appear (to the uninformed eye) relatively easy and to others very difficult or impossible depending on a vast array of factors.

My son struggles with a neurological disorder -other young people who have the same disorder cope with with everyday life do better with it or worse with it - it isn't one size fits all- and that is true of almost every illness or disability.

mel48rose

I am sure most people want to live a long and healthy life. Unfortunately some of us will have problems that will trouble us everyday. As a nurse I see a minority of people that are unwilling to take responsibility for their health and expect health professionals to have a magic pill/cure for their ailment instead of taking control. These people are a real challenge not to mention a drain on the NHS.!!