Parking Eye (other brands are also in operation)

MRS_A_3

So you want the parking operators to carry on receiving money through charges then?

I am not advocating running scared of them, indeed I am advocating knowing the rules and beating them at their own game.

A review of their activities is needed yes and is also something else on the backburner being looked at.

MRS_A_3

James_N wrote: »

Indeed I do not mean that, except by means that you have not considered - hitting them in the pocket via appeals, POPLA and the court! You choose to put words in my mouth. You are giving validity to the made-up rules of the parking companies and advocating "running scared" of them.
A thorough review of their activities is what is needed, not rolling over and playing their game.
You sound like someone who is hoping to encourage users of retail parks to hurry through their business so that they can "maximise" customers at any cost to convenience or business relationships - not to mention the protected characteristics of someone who either permanently or temporarily cannot hurry.
I expect you'd say this lady should have paid attention to her "reminder" instead of helping, for instance:
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/townhill-swansea-woman-who-averted-1877884

If you took a little time to actually read my posts instead of taking a hissy fit over them then you would plainly see that it does not matter to the parking operators if you hurry or not, if you are disabled, injured on a cliff or attending hospital. If they are intent on getting the motorist's money then they WILL TRY THEIR LEVEL BEST (unless you live in Bristol of course).

Some areas have judges who all seem to stick together for fear of upsetting one another I am sure - strange but true.

atilla

MRS_A wrote: »

So you want the parking operators to carry on receiving money through charges then?

I am not advocating running scared of them, indeed I am advocating knowing the rules and beating them at their own game.

A review of their activities is needed yes and is also something else on the backburner being looked at.

The rules?
And whose rules are those then?

When I go shopping to give a store some of my hard earned I abide by the one set of rules that matter..
Mine!

MRS_A_3

Yes but the 'rules' aren't set by the store you visit are they? The 'rules' are set by the landholder's agent who employ Parking Eye ( or the such like).

If you think that because you are shopping with a retailer and overstay that you are somehow 'protected' then you are very wrong.

There are certainly 'moles' at work on here, trying their best to undermine.

Note to 'moles' D-, must try harder. Oh and btw, and you know who you are, just because you look like an empathiser and sound like an empathiser - I can still see who and what you are a mile away.

If it looks like a mole, digs like a mole and twitches like a mole then yep it's a mole.

My work is not yet done.

Edit

I also have to wonder why there are so many 'posters' on MSE who actively encourage people to overstay in managed car parks, are they on commission or something because this whole debacle stinks like a skunk.

Let's look at why these people say the things they do, what's in it for them? Why do they want Joe Public to risk getting PCNs?

Join the dots and you will only be a quarter of the way there.

atilla

MRS_A wrote: »

Yes but the 'rules' aren't set by the store you visit are they? The 'rules' are set by the landholder's agent who employ Parking Eye ( or the such like).

If you think that because you are shopping with a retailer and overstay that you are somehow 'protected' then you are very wrong.

There are certainly 'moles' at work on here, trying their best to undermine.

Note to 'moles' D-, must try harder. Oh and btw, and you know who you are, just because you look like an empathiser and sound like an empathiser - I can still see who and what you are a mile away.

If it looks like a mole, digs like a mole and twitches like a mole then yep it's a mole.

My work is not yet done.

Edit

I also have to wonder why there are so many 'posters' on MSE who actively encourage people to overstay in managed car parks, are they on commission or something because this whole debacle stinks like a skunk.

Let's look at why these people say the things they do, what's in it for them? Why do they want Joe Public to risk getting PCNs?

Join the dots and you will only be a quarter of the way there.

Bizarre .

Out of interest are you the one who recently lost a case to PE?
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=89522&view=findpost&p=949029

MRS_A_3

So and just to clarify because there seem to be some people who just do not seem to grasp the idea of no overstay = no parking charge = no profit to be made.

Let's examine the business model of A. N. OTHER car park operator.

Operator pays landholder £x per week and in exchange the operator gets the supposed right to charge motorists for overstaying.

The motorist realises the 'game' of alleged charges and ensures there is nil opportunity for said operator to be able to issue a 'charge' against them.

The motorist is in now in charge, the operator cannot issue any more PCNs and therefore is unable to make any further profit from this business model via the motorist.

Now, why would anyone want to go against this idea of cutting off the gravy train?

The questions to ask are "What's in it for them? Why would people want to encourage motorists to overstay and risk getting a PCN which they then have to go to the trouble of disputing / defending?"

Very odd.

MRS_A_3

atilla wrote: »

Bizarre .

Out of interest are you the one who recently lost a case to PE?
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=89522&view=findpost&p=949029

Erm no. Was that person in court MRS A?

MRS_A_3

Oh see how it all works:

Poster " I regularly park in car parks and receive letters, I send them a reply to get lost, this is all it takes, if not I send them xx letter to appeal"

That isn't the truth though is it? That is a ploy to trap others into a false sense of security ie 'Look what I did and I don't care' you too can do the same....

Meanwhile the general motorist believes all this and falls into the traps set by the very people working for the parking operators.

Question is, WHO is employed by the parking operators?

If you look at other areas and not just parking operators the 'form' is the same. People befriending others, telling stories of how they have been in the same boat yada yada.

In reality these people are paid to infiltrate to find out what others know, they befriend to gain the knowledge and then they spread disinformation to undermine the victims' accounts. A bit like a tragedy if you like.

Now, who doesn't like the idea of motorists leaving the parking operators out of profit?

MRS_A_3

OK, since I was side-tracked yesterday there was something else I wanted to point out.

More often than not in these car parks there will be a metal box. Probably a lovely shade of green so it will fit into its surroundings - aw that's nice.

I imagine that inside this metal box there will be cables carrying 240volts, much like the ones found near to traffic lights.

This box must not be touched, nope, under no circumstances!

It does make me wonder why the grilles on them are sloping down so the rain is drained away instead of going inside.

I imagine it has something to do with rust prevention.

surfboy1

People on here do not encourage others to overstay, what we do is help protect those that have overstayed , or broken some other "made up rule", for whatever that reason was! For instance the person who parks in his own freehold space outside his own flat and gets a charge for doing so! plus many other examples like the family who stop on a retail car park and shop, but the driver commits the "crime" of going over the road to the cash machine! It isn't just "overstaying" you know!