Only freedom will do

edinburgher

Thanks for the laugh A Frayed Knot, the story had me chuckling!

I think I misunderstood re. thermal paper. You mean that you have it on the *inside* of all outside walls, right?

Could be another useful tool in the arsenal against the shivers - what type are you using? Also, I wonder whether there's a recycled flavour, not too keen at the idea of pushing up the creation of polystyrene...

edinburgher

Just as long as we all have the freedom to eat :spam:

I'd engage with your post, but I think it's just marketing for your blog/information product/'lifestyle'

Karmacat

Ed, there's quite a few building materials made from stuff that used to be labelled waste. Here's a Guardian article: http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/jun/19/three-ways-we-will-build-the-cities-of-the-future-from-waste

There's these guys recycling plastic: http://www.recycledplasticbuildingmaterials.co.uk/

And at the Ideal Home Show a while back, I'm sure I saw plasterboard made from *something* that had been recycled. Not sure what, sorry ....

A_Frayed_Knot

edinburgher wrote: »

Thanks for the laugh A Frayed Knot, the story had me chuckling!

I think I misunderstood re. thermal paper. You mean that you have it on the *inside* of all outside walls, right?

Could be another useful tool in the arsenal against the shivers - what type are you using? Also, I wonder whether there's a recycled flavour, not too keen at the idea of pushing up the creation of polystyrene...

Thought that might bring a smile .....


:rotfl: er, yes - the thermal paper is on the inside of the outside walls :rotfl: although as i'm in a 4 in a block I also put on dividing walls just to use it up as I had some left. (also has noise reduction qualities).:D


Wallrock Fibreliner - Recommended:j FSC-certified paper typically is composed of virgin tree fibers but it can be just as eco-friendly as recycled paper. I'm sure you'll read all the reviews. We got extra width, double length rolls. Gave a newly plastered look to the walls. We were delighted.:j


I'm sure we bought it either in B@Q or Screwfix.


Let me know how you get on.

edinburgher

FSC-certified paper typically is composed of virgin tree fibers but it can be just as eco-friendly as recycled paper. I'm sure you'll read all the reviews. We got extra width, double length rolls. Gave a newly plastered look to the walls. We were delighted.

Sounds good and not being critical in any way, there are plenty of non-polystyrene versions available, anyway.

A_Frayed_Knot

Oh the first room i done, I did use polystyrene:o then papered over with the wallrock, which i found accidentally when looking for a real thick lining paper to cover the polystyrene.:D

Before that didn't even know Wallrock existed, all other rooms are wallrock - no polystyrene:D


By the way - no offence taken, I'm thick skinned and super hardy living in the same climate as yourself:D

Karmacat

Sounds interesting! I might investigate it too, for the sound-reduction - been looking at acoustic insulation for my party wall ...

edinburgher

I am an idiot. Thought boiler was being installed today, it's next Thursday, Mrs E is !!!!ed :eek:

I wonder at the benefits of acoustic insulation KC. On the one hand, adding a dense material to a hard surface should muffle sounds, but I suspect that to get a really good result, you would want to decouple the wall with either a second stud wall or sound clips etc.?

Karmacat

If decoupling means not doing things like screwing the insulation into the party wall, yep air gaps are good too - my first house where I had a counselling room was terraced, and I went super-duper sound-insulated there - frame tied to my internal walls not the party wall, air gap, heavy duty foam insulation (the best I could find in those days, it was literally before the web was common!) and heavy duty plasterboard over the whole thing. It cost a *lot* of money, but it was worth it (erm, I was the one making the noise ...).

edinburgher

Decoupling is to physically separate two surfaces. A gap is a good example.

Considering doing it for the party walls in two of our bedrooms, but wouldn't be cheap. The best idea would probably be to strip the wall back to the studs, screw in sound clips (springy noise cancelling clips that hold rails), insulate around the rails/studs and then put two layers of plasterboard over that. Not sure if it's something that I'd need a specialist contractor for, probably.

Insulation and plasterboard - we know how to live! :coffee: