We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Tricky Return

Options
1242527293032

Comments

  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,180 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    shak2 wrote: »
    The retailer said they won't talk to me anymore...

    I can understand why that might be.
  • shak2
    shak2 Posts: 118 Forumite
    For the value involved, it would be the small claims. £25 filing fee if done online and £30 hearing fee (works on a sliding scale dependent on the claim value).

    Do remember that the burden of proof will be on you.

    If I win I win, but if I lose what costs can they claim?
  • vaio
    vaio Posts: 12,287 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    How many times does it have to be explained that no company is going to return electrical goods that are known to be faulty?

    Even though you purchased the item, if it was returned back to you then it would have been classed as second hand which means that the retailer would have been required to fully test and certify it as being safe, something that they probably wouldn't do for a low value item.
    The Electrical Equipment (Safety) Regulations 1994 fully cover this.

    specifically:
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1994/3260/regulation/5/made

    For clarity does this also apply to faulty goods I hand in for a repair estimate and then the repair doesn't go ahead?

    and if not, why?

    In both cases the punter owns the goods and I can't think of any legislation that would allow a repairer to retain the goods on the grounds they had a fault
  • bris
    bris Posts: 10,548 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    shak2 wrote: »
    Does loss of bargain only apply if you DO NOT RETURN the faulty item or does it also apply if you DO return the defective item?
    Loss of bargain only apples if you enter into a legally binding contract to buy something and the seller refuses to honour the deal, i.e he doesn't supply the goods. You then find the goods elsewhere for next best price and sue for the difference.

    Loss of bargain does not come into this because the initial contract was fulfilled, the deal was done.

    The item becoming faulty is now a SOGA issue which you have had umpteen correct replies.

    14 pages long now, this is a troll.
  • matttye
    matttye Posts: 4,828 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Debt-free and Proud!
    bris wrote: »
    Loss of bargain only apples if you enter into a legally binding contract to buy something and the seller refuses to honour the deal, i.e he doesn't supply the goods. You then find the goods elsewhere for next best price and sue for the difference.

    Loss of bargain does not come into this because the initial contract was fulfilled, the deal was done.

    The item becoming faulty is now a SOGA issue which you have had umpteen correct replies.

    14 pages long now, this is a troll.

    I like to have a little faith in humanity that nobody would be sad enough to troll for this long. :rotfl:
    What will your verse be?

    R.I.P Robin Williams.
  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,180 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    shak2 wrote: »
    If I win I win, but if I lose what costs can they claim?

    Read MSE's Small Claims Court guide for your answer.
  • shak2
    shak2 Posts: 118 Forumite
    bris wrote: »
    Loss of bargain only apples if you enter into a legally binding contract to buy something and the seller refuses to honour the deal, i.e he doesn't supply the goods. You then find the goods elsewhere for next best price and sue for the difference.

    Loss of bargain does not come into this because the initial contract was fulfilled, the deal was done.

    Really? because that's the exact opposite of what the law says:
    (i) LOSS OF BARGAIN

    ...For example, in a contract for the sale of goods which are defective, the plaintiff will (under this head) be entitled to damages reflecting the differences between the price paid under the contract and the actual value of the defective goods.

    You're saying goods can be defective without having been supplied the goods? wrong?
  • matttye
    matttye Posts: 4,828 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Debt-free and Proud!
    shak2 wrote: »
    Really? because that's the exact opposite of what the law says:



    You're saying goods can be defective without having been supplied the goods? wrong?

    Post #221:
    matttye wrote: »
    Yeah but you returned the item and got a full refund. You're therefore not entitled to any damages.
    What will your verse be?

    R.I.P Robin Williams.
  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,180 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    So what is the answer to the sum:
    ...the plaintiff will be entitled to damages reflecting the differences between the price paid under the contract and the actual value of the defective goods.
    Should be easy to work out...
    1) you know the price paid,
    2) the actual value of the defective goods must surely be somewhat less than what you paid.

    Seeing as you have already been refunded the whole of the price paid, what else are you expecting to get?
  • shak2
    shak2 Posts: 118 Forumite
    wealdroam wrote: »
    So what is the answer to the sum:

    Should be easy to work out...
    1) you know the price paid,
    2) the actual value of the defective goods must surely be somewhat less than what you paid.

    Seeing as you have already been refunded the whole of the price paid, what else are you expecting to get?

    Hi, the regular non sale price of the item is £140, so with £90 refunded already the difference I would like is £50.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.9K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.9K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.9K Life & Family
  • 257.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.