Anyone else on a diet and struggling?

Cloudydaze

Tink2 wrote: »

Forgot to put the stuff for yesterday

Went to Frankie and bennys

Tomato and nut pesto garlic pizza bread

Salmon fish cakes, Philly cheese dip, chips, watercress, lemon

Chocolate fudge cake, one scoop of vanilla ice cream

Low sugar red bull in the cinema

2x golden wonder spring onion
2x McCoy Thai chicken

500ml low sugar monster

Back to healthy and more veggies today, got grapes to snack on :drool:

Going to the cinema & out for a meal doesn't have to be an all out blowout.

I pretty much never have a starter AND dessert. It's possible to have a lovely meal with just a main plus one other course. I've a sweet tooth so dessert is usually my preference. These days I usually end up sharing. Restaurant desserts tend to be quite rich so it's enough to satisfy my sweet craving and by sharing it's half the calories and half the cost.

Maybe you could try that next time?!

Tink2

purpleshoes wrote: »

Possibly, you maybe need to think about when you eat out, on the odd occasion, doing a healthier eating out option. Theres nothing wrong with having a blowout once in a while, but if your calories are already low and they seem to be and you are restricting them so you can have a cheat meal once a week, why not just leave them alone? Another two or three hundred calories a couple of days a week isnt going to make a massive amount of difference considering how low your calories are already.

I would either up your calories and have a healthier eating out meal or I would keep your calories at a steady amount on a daily basis and when you have the cheat meal, dont cut calories to compensate.

You are going to end up spending your entire life cutting and tweaking around with calories for what is a once a week treat. Rather than just being focused on eating healthily most of the time and then having a splurge, even if thats what you are doing, the amount of planning you are having to do to achieve that might get frustrating in the long run.

I've set my calories as anywhere from 1200-2000 it depends on the day and how hungry I am, no point sticking to 1500 calories if I'm hungry and there's no point in forcing myself to have 1500 if I'm not hungry, that day I had 1200 I wasn't hungry so I didn't eat much

purpleshoes wrote: »

I would only ever stay up all night if I were working, no other reason.

Fair enough

I choose to stay up and play with my pets

Cloudydaze wrote: »

Going to the cinema & out for a meal doesn't have to be an all out blowout.

I pretty much never have a starter AND dessert. It's possible to have a lovely meal with just a main plus one other course. I've a sweet tooth so dessert is usually my preference. These days I usually end up sharing. Restaurant desserts tend to be quite rich so it's enough to satisfy my sweet craving and by sharing it's half the calories and half the cost.

Maybe you could try that next time?!

My OH wouldn't go for that

purpleshoes_2

Tink2 wrote: »

I've set my calories as anywhere from 1200-2000 it depends on the day and how hungry I am, no point sticking to 1500 calories if I'm hungry and there's no point in forcing myself to have 1500 if I'm not hungry, that day I had 1200 I wasn't hungry so I didn't eat much



Fair enough

I choose to stay up and play with my pets



My OH wouldn't go for that

But what about you? This isnt about him, its about you and your weight and your health.

Theres nothing wrong with logging calories if thats what's working for you, theres nothing wrong with the occasional cheat meal either. But how many cals are you having on your cheat meal day, are you logging them too? I read something recently about cheat meals and it suggested that the more weight someone has to lose, the less cheat meals they should have, it should be one a month to start with. What would you estimate your calories would have been on the cheat meal day yesterday? 4000? 5000? It all adds up. If you are cutting calories by a few hundred a couple of days a week to make up for the cheat meal and then your cheat meal adds a couple of thousand extra calories and you are doing that once a week, at some point your weight loss will probably slow down.

Of course there is nothing wrong with not eating much if you dont feel hungry, but Id be surprised given that you posted earlier in the thread how much weight you still have to lose, that even 1500 cals is anywhere near your TDEE.

Tink2

purpleshoes wrote: »

But what about you? This isnt about him, its about you and your weight and your health.

Theres nothing wrong with logging calories if thats what's working for you, theres nothing wrong with the occasional cheat meal either. But how many cals are you having on your cheat meal day, are you logging them too? I read something recently about cheat meals and it suggested that the more weight someone has to lose, the less cheat meals they should have, it should be one a month to start with. What would you estimate your calories would have been on the cheat meal day yesterday? 4000? 5000? It all adds up. If you are cutting calories by a few hundred a couple of days a week to make up for the cheat meal and then your cheat meal adds a couple of thousand extra calories and you are doing that once a week, at some point your weight loss will probably slow down.

Of course there is nothing wrong with not eating much if you dont feel hungry, but Id be surprised given that you posted earlier in the thread how much weight you still have to lose, that even 1500 cals is anywhere near your TDEE.

My TDEE according to this site

http://thefastdiet.co.uk/how-many-calories-on-a-non-fast-day/

Is 1917

I see nothing wrong with what I'm doing, it's working for now, when it stops working is when I will change it

~Chameleon~

Tink2 wrote: »

We go to the cinema once a week in the summer so the meal out is once a week, hence the two days of low

Would rather two days of low and be able to eat out then not be able to eat out

But you don't have to stuff your face on high calorie food every time you eat out. I've just been out for a three course lunch today and discounting the two glasses of wine, I've possibly consumed less kcal than you do in a single course considering the food choices you've previously posted.

I had:

Starter - Insalata Caprese - 237 kcal
Main - Seabass al Forno - 582 kcal
Dessert - Limone Sorbetto - 51 kcal

Total = 870 kcal


I'm stuffed to the gills so doubt I'll have anything other than a light snack later and maybe another glass or two of wine

You can still go out and enjoy yourself every week without sacrificing food intake on other days simply by making better food choices


ETA: Apologies, I've basically just repeated what others have said. I hadn't read their posts when I replied.

Tink2

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

But you don't have to stuff your face on high calorie food every time you eat out. I've just been out for a three course lunch today and discounting the two glasses of wine, I've possibly consumed less kcal than you do in a single course considering the food choices you've previously posted.

I had:

Starter - Insalata Caprese - 237 kcal
Main - Seabass al Forno - 582 kcal
Dessert - Limone Sorbetto - 51 kcal

Total = 870 kcal


I'm stuffed to the gills so doubt I'll have anything other than a light snack later and maybe another glass or two of wine

You can still go out and enjoy yourself every week without sacrificing food intake on other days simply by making better food choices

When I eat out I choose to eat things I don't eat at home

purpleshoes_2

Tink2 wrote: »

My TDEE according to this site

http://thefastdiet.co.uk/how-many-calories-on-a-non-fast-day/

Is 1917

I see nothing wrong with what I'm doing, it's working for now, when it stops working is when I will change it

Thats my point, you could up your calories and still lose weight.

As someone already said, you started the thread saying that you had been struggling a bit and your weight loss had slowed down. The thing is, if you change things, as you are going to have to when you need to cut calories, because as you lose as Im sure you know your body will need less calories to maintain its new lighter weight, on your non cheat days you might end up eating 1100 or 1200 cals.

I know you said you would go back on 5:2 if your weight loss slowed, but if its making you ill, what would be the point of that?

Indie_Kid

Cloudydaze wrote: »

Going to the cinema & out for a meal doesn't have to be an all out blowout.

I pretty much never have a starter AND dessert. It's possible to have a lovely meal with just a main plus one other course. I've a sweet tooth so dessert is usually my preference. These days I usually end up sharing. Restaurant desserts tend to be quite rich so it's enough to satisfy my sweet craving and by sharing it's half the calories and half the cost.

Maybe you could try that next time?!

Whenever we go out, we just have a main and a dessert. I personally find it's too much else and ideally, I shouldn't be eating too much food in one sitting.

Tink2

purpleshoes wrote: »

Thats my point, you could up your calories and still lose weight.

As someone already said, you started the thread saying that you had been struggling a bit and your weight loss had slowed down. The thing is, if you change things, as you are going to have to when you need to cut calories, because as you lose as Im sure you know your body will need less calories to maintain its new lighter weight, on your non cheat days you might end up eating 1100 or 1200 cals.

I know you said you would go back on 5:2 if your weight loss slowed, but if its making you ill, what would be the point of that?

Because I want to keep the foods in I like

If I upped my calories my meal out would send me over

~Chameleon~

Cloudydaze wrote: »

Going to the cinema & out for a meal doesn't have to be an all out blowout.

I pretty much never have a starter AND dessert. It's possible to have a lovely meal with just a main plus one other course. I've a sweet tooth so dessert is usually my preference. These days I usually end up sharing. Restaurant desserts tend to be quite rich so it's enough to satisfy my sweet craving and by sharing it's half the calories and half the cost.

Maybe you could try that next time?!

It's not often I have the full three courses either, today was an exception, and I usually share a dessert if it's something rich or heavy. Some of the restaurants we use actually offer a sharing platter for starters/desserts anyway which is great if you don't want a full course.