Teacher - leaving one profession to start a new one... Complications ensue!

iAMaLONDONER

eskbanker wrote: »

...and right on cue:

Are you meaning to imply that Innovate is wrong?

whodathunkit

sweetilemon wrote: »

If you resign at the end of August will you not have to work notice? Can you not put your notice in in time to have 'worked' your notice in the holidays. Enjoy the new job, tax wise if you overpay you will get it back if ypu write to them.

Unless it's changed recently there were only 3 points at which you used to be able to give notice and it was at Easter if you wanted to finish on the 31 August.

BillJones

ViolaLass wrote: »

My specific issue with your post was the comparison you used to working on a checkout.

Why would that annoy you, though? I worked on a checkout, what about it exactly do you feel about the job is beneath you?

ViolaLass

BillJones wrote: »

Why would that annoy you, though? I worked on a checkout, what about it exactly do you feel about the job is beneath you?

Not beneath me, but hardly comparable to what I do in terms of complexity - the fact that it doesn't require a degree and a year's training is one sign. I've worked as a waitress and a barmaid in my time but I don't think those jobs are comparable to teaching in complexity either.

That poster's point was that if we say that it's not OK for non-teachers to comment on teachers' working lives then the same would logically extend to not being allowed to comment on checkout service if we haven't experienced that job. My objection was that the two jobs are not comparable - saying 'doctor' instead of 'checkout operator', for example, would have worked better because the two are comparable in complexity and difficulty.

And I still think it's a bit different for teachers since the ills of society tend to get blamed on us (and if we make one spelling error on a public forum, it can be jumped on).

I'm not saying therefore that teachers get a hard deal all round or that we are saints but I think that our situation is a bit different to, say, checkout operators (who are not blamed for society's ills) or surgeons (of whose job people tend to accept they understand less).

eskbanker

ViolaLass wrote: »

if we make one spelling error on a public forum, it can be jumped on

Not sure if that's a comment on my mildly tongue-in-cheek post above but I actually let the spelling mistake go and only picked up on the grammatical one because it tied in so neatly with innovate's post! No offence intended though....

Prothet_of_Doom

If it were me, I'd give my new employer a P46, start on the day they wnated me to start, and use very carefully my new holiday allowance for the rest of 2014, (10 days ? plus a few bank holidays like christmas and boxing day and august bank ? )
I'd end up with an extra months pay, which I'd use to fund a really nice week somewhere exotic and hot at Christmas.

DStu

ViolaLass wrote: »

saying 'doctor' instead of 'checkout operator', for example, would have worked better because the two are comparable in complexity and difficulty.

I've been avoiding this one, as I have been ganged up on by teachers for my 'off the cuff' comments in the past.

But, did you really just compare a career in teaching as being as skilled as a medical doctor? (I'm assuming medical, but really my exclamation would apply to any other kinda of doctorate)
:rotfl:

I think you may be confused.
Doctors can teach...and teachers can have doctorates...but to say all teachers are on an equal footing with doctors, in terms of skill and knowledge? Come on.

duchy

originalmiscellany wrote: »

Thanks for the feedback so far, it's certainly comforted me.

I think I will resign for end of August, and just work August in the new job but try to clarify tax codes etc beforehand so I don't get hit for 6 tax wise. Ugh!

As teachers know, you are exhausted at the end of term and often spend several weeks catching up and being normal. From other jobs I've had there are no other jobs which leave you so tired and drained. As the old maxim goes, if teaching is that good, why aren't you teaching! Only then feel free to comment on how hard it is

That said, all comments have been read, and I thank you for that.

What is the "ugh" for ?
If the codes aren't corrected until later you'll just get it back later on but you'll still be earning two lots of salary.

Obviously we don't know what other types of job you've done in the past but having worked in education as well in the commercial world I can assure you there are plenty of other professionals that are equally if not more draining than teaching -and don't come with the luxury of lengthy holidays. Even if you take into account marking and lesson prep done at home -it's still work done in the comfort of your own home and to your own schedule rather than being stuck in an office til 10pm at night or needing to go in at weekends.

Different pressures perhaps but in many cases certainly not less pressure.

I do think a lot of teachers who leave the profession often are quite surprised that many office based jobs are not the 9 to 5 they fondly imagine them to be and realise they weren't as hard done by as they thought.

JKSandy

For my two pence worth my friend is a Teacher and she is constantly working till 10pm each week night and always doing something School related on her "School holidays".

Many jobs do require the same kind of commitment but are financially more rewarding.

duchy

eastofeden wrote: »

I am a teacher too. I, for one, thank my lucky stars that I get 12 weeks holidays per year, a decent salary and an excellent pension. Why be defensive when that is clearly an enviable position to be in?

Many, many people work extremely hard these days, certainly teachers do, but so do loads of others. I get fed up with hearing about all this recuperation time. Be honest, you and I, fellow teachers, are in a very, very good position.

:T:T:T:T:T:T:T:T

I personally feel that teachers do themselves a disservice blethering on about "needing to recuperate" as it alienates people who would otherwise support and admire them.
I actually think no-one should be allowed to teach without a year working in the real world first. Too many teachers are entering the profession with little life experience- and it shows. One school I worked in had a couple of QTS who had attended the school to A level- gone to a local uni so lived at home and gone straight back to their old school (and were still living at home). One of them had a brother still at the school so was in the rather odd position of teaching his brother and the brother's mates who he'd see socially at home. It was a ridiculous situation.

I do believe some teachers don't have the best time management skills and it always seemed to me that the most effective teachers were the ones who you never heard whining on about how late they'd stayed up marking -and often had other interests too so apparently for some it is possible to be well organized enough not to spend all evening every evening working on.