We'll let you know by the end of the week?

noelphobic

falko89 wrote: »

Well I phoned the company on Monday, the receptionist took my details and said she would pass them on and someone will be in touch, Never heard anything, Found out on Monday night someone else started from a relative who works for the firm.

Sorry to hear that. Not getting the job is bad enough but them not having the manners to tell you just adds insult to injury. Hopefully something better will come along.

falko89

noelphobic wrote: »

Sorry to hear that. Not getting the job is bad enough but them not having the manners to tell you just adds insult to injury. Hopefully something better will come along.

No i think once you get that line you've no hope of getting the job.

macaroni

A generic email to say sorry youve not been successful really takes no time at all and as the person has taken their time and effort to go to an interview surely its just simple common courtesy to let the candidate know categorically that they havent. Its bad enough not hearing when you have applied for a job, but not hearing after an interview is just plain rude.

Ive had 5 interviews in the last 6 months and only had to chase one fir a definitive no ( the final one was a yes but thats a whole other story!)

The actual title of this thread is a bit silly really as how many employers will tell a candidate straight away that they want to offer them the position??!

falko89

What's even worse is the companies who still give you the run around after you phone them to enquire if you have got the job. How hard is it to grow a set and say "Sorry you haven't got the job"

doctorblunkett

It's sad that this is even a debate. I'm on the side of the 'come on, put some effort in and let me know' crowd.





I work in I.T. I also do minor maintenance work, heavy lifting, health and safety, minor accounts work, business intelli...etc etc. Is it a lot to do at times? of course. do I use the excuse 'I can't do this as I'm too busy'?. absolutely not, I would be ashamed to do so. I say 'I can't do that yet, but it'll get done'

as I work in I.T, I know how easy it is to create a database (using Microsoft access, a standard software package). Part of the business I work for deals with mortgage recovery - preparing a letter based on a standard template takes *literally* less than a minute. I set up the database and templates, and it would take someones I.T support less than half an hour to have that ready to go.

The problem is that there is no comeback for this sort of thing. If someone doesn't do something for someone inside the organisation, they will rightly get rollocked for it. but they wouldn't get told off if they did that to a prospective employee, so they feel like they can get away with it.

my current employer sent me an email when they said they would, and phoned me about two hours later when I didn't reply (I couldn't reply at the time as I had sneaked onto my emails at work to check if I'd got it). THAT should be the norm. Anything else is lazy and disrespectful.

Voyager2002

doctorblunkett wrote: »

The problem is that there is no comeback for this sort of thing. If someone doesn't do something for someone inside the organisation, they will rightly get rollocked for it. but they wouldn't get told off if they did that to a prospective employee, so they feel like they can get away with it.

Except that today's unsuccessful candidate could well be tomorrow's customer.

purpleweasel

Floss wrote: »

If you re-read my post, I said "involved" in recruitment. Not "working in recruitment". And no, it wasn't part of my normal day-to-day job in local government, hence the comment about the time it takes to recruit.

I have always thought of the application/interview process as two-way: it may be an employers' market at the moment but people still have to want to work for you!


I work in the public sector and recently went through quite a prolonged recruitment process after departmental re-organisation. It was time-consuming but i thought it was worth the time invested as after all i wanted the best candidate for the job and i was going to have to work with them! We interviewed five out of the nine applicants invited (do not get me going on how much time is wasted by people who accept interview invites and then don't turn up - sometimes not even letting you know!) and phoned every one to let them know the outcome. As we interviewed over two days we had to say that we'd let them know in a few days. If they requested feedback we did our best to tell them how they did.

One of my collegues also interviewed and, as we did, let the unsuccessful ones know by phone. A couple of weeks later we had an unexpected vacancy which we were able to fill with his second-choice: do you think she would have accepted if we hadn't let her know about the result of the first interview?

falko89

purpleweasel wrote: »

I have always thought of the application/interview process as two-way: it may be an employers' market at the moment but people still have to want to work for you!


I work in the public sector and recently went through quite a prolonged recruitment process after departmental re-organisation. It was time-consuming but i thought it was worth the time invested as after all i wanted the best candidate for the job and i was going to have to work with them! We interviewed five out of the nine applicants invited (do not get me going on how much time is wasted by people who accept interview invites and then don't turn up - sometimes not even letting you know!) and phoned every one to let them know the outcome. As we interviewed over two days we had to say that we'd let them know in a few days. If they requested feedback we did our best to tell them how they did.

One of my collegues also interviewed and, as we did, let the unsuccessful ones know by phone. A couple of weeks later we had an unexpected vacancy which we were able to fill with his second-choice: do you think she would have accepted if we hadn't let her know about the result of the first interview?

Yes I think she probably would off, People can't afford to be fussy in this day and age, the company I recently had an interview for someone who got a job didn't want it in the end and they went to the next on the list and I believe they accepted, I dare say they like myself weren't told either about not being successful in the first place.

devilhat

If I apply for a position (always by email), I don't expect to be told I haven't been shortlisted for interview. It has happened, and it was a nice surprise.

But if you interview me, you'd damn well better tell me whether I've got the job or not.

falko89

devilhat wrote: »

If I apply for a position (always by email), I don't expect to be told I haven't been shortlisted for interview. It has happened, and it was a nice surprise.

But if you interview me, you'd damn well better tell me whether I've got the job or not.

In the past 2 years or so I've been looking for a new job I've been to a few interviews, I recall getting 1 letter saying I wasn't successful.