Will MOT Fail ?? (Tyre worn out!), but can NEW Tyre in the boot be used to PASS MOT ?

AdrianC

Indeed - just to clarify, the fail criteria for an MOT is the same for a tyre to be illegal. If your MOT man fails that tyre, thank him kindly for saving you from Mr Plod finding it first.

And you can have as many bald/knackered tyres in the boot as you like, Mr MOT can't do any more than gently point them out to you (via an advisory)... If ever you have a puncture, and need the spare - again - thank Mr MOT kindly for forewarning you.

Remember, an MOT is a _bare minimum_ roadworthiness, not a once-a-year highpoint.

Mark_Mark

enfield_freddy wrote: »

ok , go by the AA , they are the experts(not) , however I have found that
a: the examiner is not impressed with a badly maintained car (bald tyre in boot)
b: you will get a written advisory on your certificate


I always remove items that might offend the examiner , ie: bald spares LED side lights/flashers/stop lights .


why upset the guy?

You're a fine one to give advice.

Are your led lights road legal?

If so they would pass an mot, if not you are happy to drive a car without lights for 364 days a year.

Either way you ain't got a clue.

tykesi

OP - why are you driving round with a bald tyre when you have one that isn't in the boot? Tyres aren't just for passing MoTs you know, they're for keeping the car on the road and allowing it to brake effectively keeping you, anyone in your car and possibly more importantly other people on the road safe.

Stop asking ridiculous questions and get your dangerous tyres sorted.

Hintza

You can imagine the conversation and then the exasperation of any police officer if the OP was pulled.

Tiddlywinks

Karen_taris wrote: »

If a car has an MOT, it passes on everything, but fails because of 1 tyre being too worn out.

now in the boot of the car, there is another Spare brand new tyre. (not being used)

by mentioning that there is a spare brand new tyre to the MOT guy

When they mention that the MOT will fail, can the MOT mechanic change the Old tyre with this new one, and then pass the MOT

Would a worn tyre Fail the MOT? or just get an advisory ?

and the main question is:

should he typically be charging for this -to change this tyre?
(as the tyre has been not provided by him)

So, because you can't find any tools, you are driving around in a car with an illegal tyre?

The car is not roadworthy NOW... regardless of when it is due an MOT.

As to whether someone would charge to change your tyre - why wouldn't they? They are not there to run around after you - they are there to perform the test... they are professions and should charge for their time.

It worries me that questions like this are even asked... should some people be on the road and in charge of a car when they don't even understand the basics?

zaax

If you car fails the MOT is means its a defective and if the plod pulls you over it would be a few points (or worse) and possibly the destruction of the car

shaun_from_Africa

da_rule wrote: »

Or also go by the Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (the agency which has replaced VOSA), they clearly state on page 4 of this leaflet https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/195074/CONT071791.pdf that spare tyres are not tested. Therefore they cannot appear as an advisory, although a good mechanic would tell you just to give you the heads up.

An item that is not inspected as part of the MOT can appear as an advisory.
This is covered by section H-11 of the Dept of transport MOT guide. (The MOT inspectors bible).

VT32 – Advisory Notice (see Appendix 7 – Example 6)

Normally this notice is incorporated as part of either the VT20 or VT30 but may under certain circumstances be a separate form. It is used to provide written notification to a vehicle presenter of any item that in opinion of the NT is, for example:

a testable item which is only just passable and may need attention soon;
or an item which is not within the scope of the MOT test and may need attention;
or any peculiarity of the vehicle (e.g. front passenger seat missing).

http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/doitonline/bl/mottestingmanualsandguides/mottestingmanualsandguides.htm

AdrianC

zaax wrote: »

If you car fails the MOT is means its a defective and if the plod pulls you over it would be a few points (or worse) and possibly the destruction of the car

<sigh> No, it really doesn't work like that.

If the OP's car has two weeks of MOT left, they take it in for a new ticket - which it fails on that tyre, which they then change - but don't have the time to get the new certificate done - it'll be perfectly legal to drive. Yes, even with a fail certificate. However, it was illegal to drive yesterday or even on the way to the test centre, before it failed.

There are no points for having an expired MOT. The car cannot be seized for having an expired MOT. Failing an MOT does not invalidate any remaining valid MOT.

colino

"Failing an MOT does not invalidate any remaining valid MOT." Is technically perfectly correct, but have a look for the MOT videos now online. The VOSA guy then goes on to say that if the car is deemed unroadworthy at the early MOT, and that matter later becomes pertinent, they are committing an offence. A good reason why owners of classics/pre-60 cars no longer use an MOT centre for a cheap car checkover.

AdrianC

colino wrote: »

"Failing an MOT does not invalidate any remaining valid MOT." Is technically perfectly correct, but have a look for the MOT videos now online. The VOSA guy then goes on to say that if the car is deemed unroadworthy at the early MOT, and that matter later becomes pertinent, they are committing an offence. A good reason why owners of classics/pre-60 cars no longer use an MOT centre for a cheap car checkover.

You miss my point. In the OP's case, the illegality is the tyre, not any MOT fail.

Drive on that, without taking to an MOT - the vehicle is illegal. Whether you know that tyre's bald or not.
Take it for an MOT, fail, go home and change the tyre - the vehicle is legal, so long as the old MOT hasn't yet expired.

Your description of the VOSA video does not disagree with this view.