Different attitudes towards reasonable room temperature at home

LADYXXMACBETH

I've tried to read as much as I can. There is such a difference in temperature tolerance. I don't like being too warm and in my last house had no heating at all and I don't wear jumpers either.
If it's a matter of money then ask him for a bit more rent.
If it's a matter of the house being too warm for you then tell him to get a heater for his room. Or and I hope I'm not being thick but if there are radiators turn off the ones close to you and turn on the ones near him.
His room might be really cold.

Personally I can't see that a compromise can't be reached say 22degrees. It could get pretty nasty and unfortunately if you share your house with others you need to cater for their needs as well as yours. If he was paying no rent then fair enough your house, your rules. But he is paying you and you in his eyes are not providing him with his needs. He turns the heating up, you turn it down, he then thinks right well ill leave my electric on all day, and become a pain in the !!!! and makes your life a misery. I'm not saying he will do that. Most people would find 18-20 too cold. Could you buy a thermometer and actually go round the house to see how hot it actually is.
If you don't like it being so hot then take your jumper and coat off and walk around in a bikini. If this sounds rude that's what it's like when people say put a jumper on.

Idiophreak

DRP wrote: »

I just think most posters don't see any need for the OP to consider adjust the ambient temperature until the lodger has at least made an attempt at dressing suitably for the (mild, not cold) environment..

That is surely the sensible (free) first step...? :money:

Sorry, free for who? The OP?

Heating certainly isn't free for the lodger, so why should it be free for the landlord? This is nothing more than a cynical attempt to maximise profits at the expense of the lodger's comfort.

The fact that the OP is charging for heating and then providing a "mild" environment is the crux of the matter. As I said earlier, if they insist on keeping the place "mild", it should be advertised and priced as such. Otherwise people will reasonably assume that the house will be warmed to a comfortable temperature and they should be comfortable inside wearing only indoor clothes.

bouicca21

It seems to me that many people are losing sight of the fact that op says the temperature he wants make her uncomfortably warm. It's her house, she decides. If he doesn't want to buy the product she sells, then he has to find another.

So, ok, I am of the generation that grew up with ice on the windows, but I like being comfortable, and I don't see that wearing a cardigan or a jumper is quite the same as wrapping up like an Eskimo. I quite often have to wear more than a mere t shirt at a particular office because it is air conditioned and I find it somewhat chilly. It has never occurred to me that the need to put on a cardigan to work in that environment is unreasonable.

SRT81

LADYXXMACBETH wrote: »

Most people would find 18-20 too cold.

If you don't like it being so hot then take your jumper and coat off and walk around in a bikini. If this sounds rude that's what it's like when people say put a jumper on.

Really!?

The top-end of the guideline temperature is one that "most" people would find too cold?

Based on what?

This isn't a shared house, this is the OP's house. The onus isn't on the LL to adjust their behaviour to the point where they're uncomfortable in their own home to accommodate a lodger who can quite easily move out and find better-suited accommodation.

bouicca21 wrote: »

It seems to me that many people are losing sight of the fact that op says the temperature he wants make her uncomfortably warm. It's her house, she decides. If he doesn't want to buy the product she sells, then he has to find another

This is a point I, and a few others, made repeatedly early on in this discussion.

Should have been the end of it really.

But because of some the thread keeps (t)rolling on and on...

LADYXXMACBETH

Yesterday it was 18 degrees here and on my way out to the shops at 3pm nearly everyone had a coat on. I know it's bonkers as I don't feel the cold but I think in this day and age people have got used to being toasty warm.
I think the OP in future should mention this in future and then see how many tenants she gets!

Idiophreak

SRT81 wrote: »

This is a point I, and a few others, made repeatedly early on in this discussion.

Should have been the end of it really.

But because of some the thread keeps (t)rolling on and on...

Ah, I see....So you gave your opinion and that should have been the end of it.

Some people had the audacity to disagree with your divine opinion, so *they* must be trolling.

Sorry, I can't find the "bow down a worship SRT81" smilie, so this one will have to do :wall::wall::wall:

BigAunty

SRT81 wrote: »

Really!?

The top-end of the guideline temperature [18-20] is one that "most" people would find too cold?

I find 20 degrees too cold. I like 22 degrees but this will still see me wearing 3 teeshirts and a fleece. I may have a harmless common syndrome where one of the symptoms is generally feeling cold, having cold hands and feet.

My partner finds this temperature too warm. We have to compromise quite regularly and negotiate when the thermostat can come down or up, when the heating can be switched off, its duration. I have lost my temper before when I've found the heating switched off without being asked - I suffer in the cold and it makes me miserable.

My father is notoriously stingy with the heating and when I stay over, we fight constant battles with the thermostat settings and with the gas fire in the living room (which I kid you not, only comes on when I visit because I make him put it on, otherwise it remains an ornament). He tries to trick me by putting the orange flickering light on without turning the heat on but obviously I am wise to it....

You would never see me strutting round a house in a tee-shirt demanding the heating on a 25 degrees, not in my house and definately not in someone else's.

adouglasmhor

LADYXXMACBETH wrote: »

Yesterday it was 18 degrees here and on my way out to the shops at 3pm nearly everyone had a coat on. I know it's bonkers as I don't feel the cold but I think in this day and age people have got used to being toasty warm.
I think the OP in future should mention this in future and then see how many tenants she gets!

Lodgers are not tennants.

SRT81

The very basic point of the OP was that the lodger's preferred temperature was too hot for them.

Given that it's their house, not a rented out property, not a shared house, then as a live-in landlord their rules apply and the temperature will be set to their preference.

So I'll say this one last time... if the lodger doesn't like/agree with that, or if they're not prepared to put a jumper/fleece/hoodie on in the house they can MOVE OUT and find somewhere more appropriate.

Idiophreak wrote: »

Ah, I see....So you gave your opinion and that should have been the end of it.

Some people had the audacity to disagree with your divine opinion, so *they* must be trolling.

Sorry, I can't find the "bow down a worship SRT81" smilie, so this one will have to do :wall::wall::wall:

Oh do give it a rest.

You know full well I was referring to bouicca21's post that a lot of you are missing the original point. Something several of us pointed out again and again and again.

Idiophreak

SRT81 wrote: »

You know full well I was referring to bouicca21's post that a lot of you are missing the original point. Something several of us pointed out again and again and again.

As I've pointed out again and again and again, it's doubtful that the lodger actually wants the house at 25' on an ongoing basis - they were probably just cold at the time and wanted the house to warm up.

If the OP is uncomfortably hot, they could take their jumper off.

The OP has already taken money for providing a service, so is obligated to provide that service. So it's not as simple as "if they don't like it, they can move out".