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Different attitudes towards reasonable room temperature at home
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compromise and turn it up to 20C
I often do have it at 20 c , usually ranges from 18 to 20 C
For those who asked: my house is a 2 bedroom Victorian period terrace with double glazing and roof insulation. Front door can be a bit draughty when it is windy but it is easy to shut the living room door. Current room temperature 20 c but feels warmer to me.0 -
Serve notice. He's taking the pee. 25 degrees is a tropical temperature.
By refusing to put on a jumper and dominating you with his opinions, his dumb 'defence', he's just wants to show you that he has a big !!!!!! and he's the daddy. Surely the attitude he shows you on the issue of the heating, his shocking sense of entitlement, must show its repugnant head in other ways?
He needs a reality check of true market rent and a live in landlord that won't take any nonsense.
I think you can get thermostat/timers that have some kind of way to lock or passcode to stop them from being altered? Or if its wireless, put it a room that can be locked by you (such as installing a lock on your bedroom door, one that complies with fire safety by having a thumb turn lock inside to get out).
I used to come back from weekends and holidays to find my lodger had switched the heating off the timer and onto manual so it would run 24/7. One used to tumble dry their clothes on a sunny day just because they didn't want to iron them...
Don't want to completely stop him adjusting the temperature , just to be more realistic.0 -
AngelPie78 wrote: »For me the question would be what room is 'too cold'? If it's his own bedroom and he's been in there for two hours or so and he's still cold, then that's one situation, but if it's the whole house and he spends most of his time in the lounge or in his bedroom, then that's a different scenario imho.
I have a fairly open plan house and the house can be cold when the thermostat is set at 28+. We have a massive conservatory at the end of the house, bad wall cavaties and insulation as well as an old boiler which doesn't help. I spend a lot of time at home, as a student, and can go from having all the windows and doors open, to having the heating on full for an hour or longer in one day. It really does depend on the weather and the house. I hate wearing jumpers inside, but that's my choice and I pay the bills so I have a bit more freedom there.
I think people who have posted have made some quite broad assumptions about your house when there are more questions that can be answered to help find a compromise for you and your lodger.
28 degrees?!!! :eek: I would be dying from suffocation in that heat. Surely that's a typo. If not, your house definitely needs some serious cavity wall insulation/loft insulation and a new boiler. That is extremely high.
18-20 should be plenty warm enough in any home, and in ours, it's usually on 15. When it's cold, maybe 17. No wonder people have a £350 gas bill for a quarter! (Like I have read on this forum.)
Re; the OP, I would meet halfway (as a few have said; ) maybe put it on 19 to 20 degrees. 25 is too high. Your heating bill will be sky high! Daft to just evict him though, without even trying to resolve the issue. Just bumping the thermostat up to 20 sometimes may be fine for him.(•_•)
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28 degrees?!!! :eek: I would be dying from suffocation in that heat. Surely that's a typo. If not, your house definitely needs some serious cavity wall insulation/loft insulation and a new boiler. That is extremely high.
18-20 should be plenty warm enough in any home, and in ours, it's usually on 15. When it's cold, maybe 17. No wonder people have a £350 gas bill for a quarter! (Like I have read on this forum.)
Re; the OP, I would meet halfway (as a few have said; ) maybe put it on 19 to 20 degrees. 25 is too high. Your heating bill will be sky high! Daft to just evict him though, without even trying to resolve the issue. Just bumping the thermostat up to 20 sometimes may be fine for him.0 -
My present lodger gets up at 5 or 6 every morning, 2 hours before the central heating comes on. She asked me to supply an electric heater (which I did) for cold winter mornings and offered to pay extra to account for the increased energy use. She also happens to think wearing a jumper in the house is normal.
It might be worth considering a lodger who is a bit older next time, and has a more realistic idea of energy costs. Whilst most live in landladies, including myself, will want their lodger to be comfortable in their home and and will do their best to accommodate reasonable requests, there are some expectations/requests which simply indicate that the lodger does not fit in with your lifestyle well enough for you to justify keeping them or offering them the accommodation to start with. I think yours is one of them. There will be a landlady out there whose way of living (including house temperature) is compatible with his.0 -
Jenniefour wrote: »My present lodger gets up at 5 or 6 every morning, 2 hours before the central heating comes on. She asked me to supply an electric heater (which I did) for cold winter mornings and offered to pay extra to account for the increased energy use. She also happens to think wearing a jumper in the house is normal.
It might be worth considering a lodger who is a bit older next time, and has a more realistic idea of energy costs. Whilst most live in landladies, including myself, will want their lodger to be comfortable in their home and and will do their best to accommodate reasonable requests, there are some expectations/requests which simply indicate that the lodger does not fit in with your lifestyle well enough for you to justify keeping them or offering them the accommodation to start with. I think yours is one of them. There will be a landlady out there whose way of living (including house temperature) is compatible with his.0 -
My current lodger is in his late 30's so not really young ( though younger than I am) . When he came to see the room I didn't have any concerns and could not have predicted his attitude to heating.
Wow! I'm guessing he's not had to pay any energy bills himself in recent years. No, of course you couldn't have predicted that. That's an expectation, though, which possibly means he isn't the right lodger for you. And I'm guessing how he's dealt with this has not been easy either - he hasn't offered any compromise himself. Your house, your rules.0 -
Jenniefour wrote: »Wow! I'm guessing he's not had to pay any energy bills himself in recent years. No, of course you couldn't have predicted that. That's an expectation, though, which possibly means he isn't the right lodger for you. And I'm guessing how he's dealt with this has not been easy either - he hasn't offered any compromise himself. Your house, your rules.
Actually he has. He has a house up North where his family (wife and teenage kids) live . I asked him about his heating there and he says that he often has the thermostat at 25 if someone says they are cold.0 -
My place is not my lodger's main home. He lives in Preston and has a house there but has a job in London so I raised the issue of home temperatures with him. He just said that he expects to keep a 25 degree temperature which he doesn't consider to be hot.
I had a housemate at university, whose Dad was a coal miner, and they got free coal back home.
We (me and the other poor students) had to force him to put clothes on. Do not sit about in Feb, in shorts, and no socks, and complain it's cold.
We agreed a rule. IF he had 2 pairs of socks, a pair of long johns under his long trousers. 2 tee shirts, 2 jumpers, and a wooly hat on, and if he was still cold, he should go to the pub, and sit by thier fire, get drunk and then come back at closing time, and if he was still cold, we'd turn the thermostat up to 19. (Mind you it would have timed off by then :rotfl:)0
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