Not aware of High Income Child Benefit Charge

tomtontom

wetcaterpillar wrote: »

I'll let you into a secret - it seems a lot of people don't know. Generally, if you use PAYE and your circumstances haven't changed, then you don't need to do anything with regards to tax. It all just happens.

I'll let you into a secret - your tax affairs are your responsibility. Sometimes HMRC gets it wrong, sometimes your employer may, but ultimately it is you that pays the bill. It takes minutes to check each month that you are paying the correct amount, and saves for any nasty shocks in the future

wetcaterpillar

poppasmurf_bewdley wrote: »

Well, speaking only for myself; I'm retired so have plenty of time to spend on the forum. As for berating and belittling you, I asked you a question. I asked where you've been for the last 18 months. That's not berating or belittling. If you see it as such, then that's in your own mind.

Let me quote you:

As for not being able to find anything, putting 'Child Benefit cuts' on Google just now produced 24,300,000 results (that's twenty four million, three hundred thousand results)!

You chose to ignore the context (not receiving correspondence from HMRC), and took the patronising line of indicating that there were plenty of results on google. This included typing out, as words, the number of results. Why did you do that?

If you can't see how that is patronising, or that wasn't your intent, you should take a look at how you communicate with people.

I still can't believe you haven't heard about the new Child Benefit rules. I think that if the truth be told, you have heard but you didn't want to hear. In one ear and out of the other.

More berating, which you deny you do.

You seem to be proud of your ignorance, and you keep spouting of how you are keeping up with being ignorant.

Yes, I didn't know about this. You are the one, along with others, who somehow infer that this means that I can't know anything about anything.

There will be a million things I know that you don't know that are more relevant to me.

You are the one who will suffer from your ignorance. No one else.

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wetcaterpillar

tomtontom wrote: »

I'll let you into a secret - your tax affairs are your responsibility. Sometimes HMRC gets it wrong, sometimes your employer may, but ultimately it is you that pays the bill. It takes minutes to check each month that you are paying the correct amount, and saves for any nasty shocks in the future

They are my responsibility, but up until now, for over 20 years, I have had to take no actions as a result of changes to tax. It is all applied automatically. I pay attention to things like income tax, which make a big difference to take home pay, and student loan, which used to consume a large part of my take home pay.

I check my pay slip each month. What would I have checked to see if I should have been paying High Income Child Benefit Charge, if I wasn't aware of the High Income Child Benefit Charge?

Poppie68

wetcaterpillar wrote: »

It's quite interesting looking at the post history of Poppie68, poppasmurf_bewdley and thorsoak. So many instances of berating and belittling people because they don't know something they do know.

I'd love to know what drives a person to spend their days on a forum doing this.

Why i spend my time on here is none of your business.


Read your own posts and then sit down an figure out who is trying to belittle and berate people. I asked a genuine non argumentative question about forms recieved or not recieved and not once tried to belittle or berate you about your lack of knowledge regarding the new rules.. i only mentioned this in my last post to another poster, after you started trying to belittle me and berate over my use of quotation marks.

Anyway this is totally childish and a complete waste of energy. I will leave you to carry on trying to belittle and berate every poster that dares have an a opinion. (opinions are alllowed on here by the way)

poppasmurf_bewdley

I thought you hadn't heard anything about the new Child Benefit tax rules? If you haven't, as you claim, how do you know how much media coverage it received?

For your information, the new CB tax rules was the lead story on many news bulletins, front page headlines in newspapers and online news sites over a period of months - not hours or days - so that only an ignoramus could miss it. Just like the missing airliner story has been, and will be in the future.

wetcaterpillar

Poppie68 wrote: »

Why i spend my time on here is none of your business.

It is. This is the Internet, you replied to my thread. I can reply to your posts.

Read your own posts and then sit down an figure out who is trying to belittle and berate people. I asked a genuine non argumentative question about forms recieved or not recieved and not once tried to belittle or berate you about your lack of knowledge regarding the new rules.. i only mentioned this in my last post to another poster, after you started trying to belittle me and berate over my use of quotation marks.

I'm not just talking about this thread, it's your general posting history.

Do you understand, even if you quote another poster, I can read it and am free to reply to it?

Anyway this is totally childish and a complete waste of energy. I will leave you to carry on trying to belittle and berate every poster that dares have an a opinion. (opinions are alllowed on here by the way)

A lot of them aren't just opinions though, are they? There's just plain falsehoods.

Any my opinion is that there are several posters here who seem to spend a lot of time replying to threads pointing out how superior they are, which doesn't help the OP. It just seems very odd to me.

wetcaterpillar

poppasmurf_bewdley wrote: »

I thought you hadn't heard anything about the new Child Benefit tax rules? If you haven't, as you claim, how do you know how much media coverage it received?

I don't understand you. I said that I didn't know about the High Income Child Benefit Charge. I knew the rules were changing. I have said both these things. On the day of the 2012 budget, it doesn't seem it was announced that the way this would be done was by claiming back tax and having to register for self-assessment. Certainly not on the few stories I have looked at.

I can tell how much media coverage it received because firstly, all those other items I mentioned, I have read a lot about, and secondly, you can look back in time using the Internet, can't you?

For your information, the new CB tax rules was the lead story on many news bulletins, front page headlines in newspapers and online news sites over a period of months - not hours or days - so that only an ignoramus could miss it. Just like the missing airliner story has been, and will be in the future.

I knew they were changing. I didn't know that I had to register for self -assessment to deal with it.

I'm really not sure why you bring up the missing airliner repeatedly.

thorsoak

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You then get the government that you deserve - and have no right to complain about it. To quote Simon Hoggart's article from The Guardian, way back in 2008. "Don't people realise what's going on? It's like the old Scottish joke about the Wee Free preacher describing the day of judgment. "There will be people cast into the pits of Hell, crying 'oh, Lord, we didna ken!' And the Lord will reply, 'well, ye ken noo!'"


And as for my postings - well unlike you, I am interested in what actually goes on in the world, what people think about, worry about, and talk about. And so I interact. My bad!!

Do I make nasty posts - well I tell things as I see them -and I don't suffer fools gladly - but as we are told that statistics tell the full story - here's mine:-

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Just phone up HMRC, find out what you have to do to correct figures, do it ....

wetcaterpillar

Your arrogance blows my mind.

You've labelled me as someone who doesn't keep up with any current affairs. You've labelled me as stupid and lazy. Based on missing having to register for self-assessment. Wow.

Yet you either cannot read or can't understand fairly simple language. There is no "both". I've already called HMRC. You seem to have missed this.

You know nothing about how, where or how much I interact with people. Yet you assert that you do. That makes you presumptious and wrong.

And then you use your posting stats to validate yourself. Brilliant. What do they show? That you are winning on money saving expert? Congratulations.

thorsoak

wetcaterpillar wrote: »

Your arrogance blows my mind.

You've labelled me as someone who doesn't keep up with any current affairs. You've labelled me as stupid and lazy. Based on missing having to register for self-assessment. Wow.

Yet you either cannot read or can't understand fairly simple language. There is no "both". I've already called HMRC. You seem to have missed this.

You know nothing about how, where or how much I interact with people. Yet you assert that you do. That makes you presumptious and wrong.

And then you use your posting stats to validate yourself. Brilliant. What do they show? That you are winning on money saving expert? Congratulations.

Think what you like. I'm not the person who is trying to avoid a fine for not having dealt with your financial/fiscal affairs in the necessary manner.

Your initial post was requesting help "I've just found out about the High Income Child Benefit Charge.

Neither myself (earning more than £50k), or my partner (getting child benefit) seemed to get any correspondence about this, so I wasn't aware I had to register for self-assessment last year or file a tax return at all.

It seems like this will incur a significant penalty.

What options do I have here?"