Meteor Railway parking ticket

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Signage terms, talks about a PARKING charge notice not a penalty:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1564fwx&s=8#.U3VJz03Qepo

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rp3f9t&s=8#.U3VKC03Qepo

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4sfkmx&s=8#.U3VKgU3Qepo

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=53oe3c&s=8#.U3VKtk3Qepo

louloukoi16 wrote: »

and original window ticket:

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and ntk

i62.tinypic.com/12492wy.jpg

The Parking Charge Notice talks about POPLA, these waters are VERY muddy!

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2w2fxc2&s=8#.U3VLDU3Qepo

but now we have the TOC pretending it's a real penalty and no POPLA:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=12492wy&s=8#.U3VLYU3Qepo

So I repeat the advice I gave before, complain to the BPA, the TOC and Passenger Focus that as keeper you have been denied your right to a POPLA appeal since the signage makes it clear that the document issued was a Parking Charge Notice which has to follow a set procedure under the BPA CoP. Failure to do so puts Meteor in breach of their own Trade Body rules. Not only that, as there was never a 'penalty charge' issued at all, this cannot be escalated the way that this letter suggests.

A parking charge and penalty charge are two completely different things and this letter is misleading in the extreme.

A similar thread is here:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4939610

and here:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4928095&highlight=meteor&page=2

look at jkdd77's post # 34 there. Also anon45's post #3 here on pepipoo:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=85087

and finally look at Bazster's brilliant letter here:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4971399

HTH

bazster

I agree with Stroma, that signage is crap.

The byelaw is clear: they may only charge a penalty pursuant to bye-law 14 if the fact is displayed in the area. Well it isn't: they've displayed a load of guff relating to parking charge notices, but this relates to what is purely a civil matter (and it doesn't even say what the amount of the charge is). There is nothing there specifying a penalty pursuant to the bye-laws. It's not sufficient to state vaguely that there are some bye-laws and we might do something with them, they need to state that a penalty might be due from the owner of the vehicle under the bye-laws, and what that penalty would be.

Notice how this is all in clause 14 of the T&C's, and the relevant bye-law is also 14. Coincidence, or a typical PPC attempt to confuse and deceive?

louloukoi16

so my letter what do you guys think so far.

Dears Sir/Madam

I write to you in regards to Parking Charge Notice Number: xxxxxx

As the Registered Keeper of the Vehicle I have received this “PCN” stating “Parked without displaying a valid ticket or voucher”

As the register keeper I have visited xxxx railway station to check that the nature of this ticket is correct, I have studied your Agents Terms and Conditions and also read The British Parking Association Code of Practice and Compliance.

I regret to inform you that this goes against your agent’s terms and conditions and also the British Parking Associations Code of Practice and Compliance as there has no issue of a POPLA appeals process.

Railway byelaw has been stated in this letter received by you, which is also in breach of the railway byelaw as there also needs to be the correct signage and the amount stated clearly.
Railway Byelaw 14(4):

In England and Wales
(i) The owner of any motor vehicle, bicycle or other conveyance
used, left or placed in breach of Byelaw 14(1) to 14(3) may be
liable to pay a penalty as displayed in that area.

Further, I am complaining to DVLA that:

Your agent Meteor obtained my personal details from DVLA and then passed them on to another company (you) in a prima facie breach of the Data Protection Act.


and now im stuck!

Gords

I'm glad I searched Google as I have just come across this post ... and I am in the same position (I think).

I have tried emailing and phoning Meteor - no response. I sent my appeal to their address, recorded delivery, and it wasn't delivered (still waiting at post office to be collected).

I have read all of this post and had a look in the sticky posts - but am feeling very overwhelmed / confused at the moment! I have just received the £165 or Court Summons letter but short of paying it I don't know what to do next!?

P.S. I don't mean to hijack this thread but it seems to be exactly the same as my situation.

P.P.S. Actually, it may not be quite the same? - I had a valid monthly ticket but it had fallen into the foot-well of the car so wasn't visible.

Dee140157

Gords please start you own thread, it is difficult and confusing to give advice to 2 different people on the same thread.

Stroma

No two situations are exactly the same so start your own thread

Gords

OK, will do, sorry :-)

louloukoi16

whats everyones thoughts of the letter so far?

Stroma

Who are you writing too with that ?

louloukoi16

Stroma wrote: »

Who are you writing too with that ?

PCN Debt Recovery and Prosecution Service