Nice People Thread Number 11 - A Treasury of Nice People

neverdespairgirl

zagubov wrote: »

Has he investigated the job market for these subjects? I know they're very popular subjects but mainly in sixth forms, which some schools don't have..

I can't say I'm impressed by the way schools prepare students for choosing careers. I've always suspected that in many cases there's precious little advice or guidance being given.

I'm not sure you have to do a subject for your degree to teach it?

My Bruv did a law degree, and is investigating becoming a teacher in the UK via some sort of non-PGCE route for people who've already done teaching; he's done 3 years as a TEFL teacher in Korea.

He was looking at becoming a history or English teacher, not a law one.

My mother's PGCE qualified her (IIRC) to teach geography, geology and German, and she only did German up to A level. She also ended up teaching biology one year, for a first year O level course, despite having chucked it in herself before that stage!

vivatifosi wrote: »

Happy (British) Fathers Day to any dads on here today. I know that's Gen, but also Zag and anyone else who happens to be around.

Isaac drew a card showing OH carrying Danny in the sling, with himself and me watching nearby. I added Danny's footprint to it - it's remarkably hard to get a baby to make a neat footprint. He tended to kick the paper, which smeared it. Isaac thought painting the baby's foot was great fun, though.

PasturesNew wrote: »

Then it goes to the next level. People who think that drinking a bottle of wine in a day, or with one meal, is normal/acceptable.

Alcoholics!!

Even a lot of food programmes cover "what wine to drink with this pie/chips we just cooked...." No - pie and chips is a Coke!

I think of that as something my parents and people of their age tend to do -so people in their 60s. Must be a coincidence, but I hardly ever drink, nor do my sisters, and my Bruv does a bit, but not that much. OTOH, relating to what you said about people choosing their own vices, Bruv and Sister #1 smoke, and I did until not that long ago. Sister #2 is the virtuous one!

PasturesNew wrote: »

Only if you earn a lot. Single living is uber-expensive. You're paying "couples prices" for 90% of everything.

Kids don't cost a lot - parents spend a lot on kids then say kids are expensive.

They cost an absolute fortune, IME. Not on "stuff", but on the money you don't earn being pregnant and when they are small, on childcare, and on paying the mortgage on the space they occupy that you otherwise wouldn't need to have.

And on school fees. And extra literacy tuition!

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Can I just say I'm sick to death of this referendum malarkey already.

I was sick of it ages ago.

Generali

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Ouch, you poor love! Can you treat the symptoms of them? Bonjela, or something that helps with mouth ulcers, perhaps?

I'll have to speak to the specialist first. As there's no pain I'm happy for that to wait until my usual Wednesday morning.

Now you come to mention it, I've never seen bonjela over here although I've never looked I admit. Thank goodness this is coming to an end. I stayed home today and may do tomorrow too. I'm just sooo tired. I came back from the hospital and just slept. I'm sleeping fine at night so I guess it's the treatment. I've also got a throat infection although that might be burning from the treatment too.

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I can think of some things. But maybe I've not been an ex-smoker long enough!

Principally, I miss the "treat" and "quiet togetherness" aspects of it - I mostly smoked with OH, and it was a thing we did together as a reward. So now we try to do other things together instead (he gave up too).

Mrs Generali never smoked, she's smoked a handful of cigarettes in her life. My views are probably coloured by the terrible struggle I had with quitting.

I used to enjoy smoking at the time I suppose. Looking back though I honestly can't think of a single reason why.

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

What drugs were banned in the 1970s? I can't think of any major ones - heroin / opiates were prescriable by pharmacists until the 1920s, from memory.


I don't think booze was a middle class drug, it was an all-classes one (-:

1870s not 1970s. Cocaine and opium were made harder to buy (working class drugs) tobacco (middle class) and alcohol (all classes) were not AIUI. I bow to your greater knowledge of the law of course!

zagubov

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I'm not sure you have to do a subject for your degree to teach it?

My Bruv did a law degree, and is investigating becoming a teacher in the UK via some sort of non-PGCE route for people who've already done teaching; he's done 3 years as a TEFL teacher in Korea.

He was looking at becoming a history or English teacher, not a law one.

My mother's PGCE qualified her (IIRC) to teach geography, geology and German, and she only did German up to A level. She also ended up teaching biology one year, for a first year O level course, despite having chucked it in herself before that stage!

I think that depends on the sector. Independent schools may have their own rules.

Half the people qualified to teach, don't bother.

silvercar

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I'm not sure you have to do a subject for your degree to teach it?

My Bruv did a law degree, and is investigating becoming a teacher in the UK via some sort of non-PGCE route for people who've already done teaching; he's done 3 years as a TEFL teacher in Korea.

He was looking at becoming a history or English teacher, not a law one.

My mother's PGCE qualified her (IIRC) to teach geography, geology and German, and she only did German up to A level. She also ended up teaching biology one year, for a first year O level course, despite having chucked it in herself before that stage!




Isaac drew a card showing OH carrying Danny in the sling, with himself and me watching nearby. I added Danny's footprint to it - it's remarkably hard to get a baby to make a neat footprint. He tended to kick the paper, which smeared it. Isaac thought painting the baby's foot was great fun, though.



I think of that as something my parents and people of their age tend to do -so people in their 60s. Must be a coincidence, but I hardly ever drink, nor do my sisters, and my Bruv does a bit, but not that much. OTOH, relating to what you said about people choosing their own vices, Bruv and Sister #1 smoke, and I did until not that long ago. Sister #2 is the virtuous one!



They cost an absolute fortune, IME. Not on "stuff", but on the money you don't earn being pregnant and when they are small, on childcare, and on paying the mortgage on the space they occupy that you otherwise wouldn't need to have.

And on school fees. And extra literacy tuition!



I was sick of it ages ago.

I thought you were meant to be qualified to one level above the level you teach. So ideally you have a degree to teach A level and an A level to teach the gcse subject. The PGCE itself is a blanket qualification ie once you have it you can teach anything, but schools would look for your specialism in making appointments, I hope.

You know you can get baby footprints made into paperweights/ fancy glass/ framed? I think John Lewis do them as well as some posh online sellers.

School fees: DS2 constantly reminds us that we should never hold the fact we chose to send him to a private secondary school against him.

Do all married NPs have PoA set up? We don't and I heard a horrific tale of a friend of a friend where he had a sudden accident and is now in a position where he can't make one. Everything made worse because she can't access his money or even talk to his bank.

silvercar

SingleSue wrote: »

That would be a great help! H?

zagubov wrote: »

Does H refer to the NP heartland?

I thought he was studying at The University of the NP heartland, in H?

lostinrates

I'm sorry I caused concern.

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Edit: please don't quote any of this post. Once you all know I'm alive and ok I might well remove it. There is not a single aspect of it I am comfortable with.

GDB2222

LIR! You are back! I just took a break from posting here when things were getting on top of me and I was feeling ill. You're entitled to do the same without any need to explain. We were all a bit worried about you because your health is not that robust, that's all.

silvercar

(((( LiR ))))

PasturesNew

zagubov wrote: »

Half the people qualified to teach, don't bother.

I think a lot can't get jobs. Lots of jobs at inner city sink schools, no jobs in lovely areas like Devon/Cornwall/Cotswolds and good towns.

One thing I became aware of when I lived in Cornwall was that many teachers want to "retire somewhere lovely", with Cornwall/Devon being hotspots.... and they expect to move there, then get a job teaching..... only to find the place is awash with semi-retired teachers and teachers aged 45+ who all had the same idea.

If you're qualified and setting out then if the jobs aren't where you live/want to live/grew up then you pretty quickly probably give up and "get a job/any other job".

Generali

I'm not sure that being unable to cope with being very ill should be termed 'failure'.

I was unable to go to work today. I thought I had a throat infection but TBH I think it's further radiation burns. I lay down on the sofa and slept through Sky News for a while and then I slept through several football matches.

I then 'cooked dinner' which involved me throwing a chicken and some unpeeled potatoes in the oven and boiling up some frozen veg.

Did I fail today? I don't think so. I think I'm really quite unwell so can't do what I would like to do.

I guess it comes down to the definition of success. I think that getting myself to treatment, feeding the family and reloading the dishwasher was a pretty good day considering.

There is no way at all that the ability or desire to post on this thread defines success. I post when I want and can, I don't when I don't want or can't. I'm not beholden to anyone and I don't think any other posters should feel that they are either.