Nice People Thread Number 11 - A Treasury of Nice People

silvercar

PasturesNew wrote: »

There's Mother's Day, Father's Day ... Valentine's Day for lovers/people to date..... what about a Spinster's Day?

People should buy us presents for not overpopulating the planet

With no kids to support, you can afford to buy your own!

PasturesNew

vivatifosi wrote: »

Where's the harm to others in cannabis? That you force feed them chocolate when you've got the munchies? I'm sure it's from smoke, but that struck me as quite high.

As I see it, a lot of the harm is the route to smoking that cannabis. e.g. crime to pay for the cannabis + the drugs gangs/violence/slavery that gets the cannabis from the fields into the spliff. It pays for guns, that do bigger crimes too. All "the hidden cost of cannabis" that most don't see/know about or admit to.

If one person grows their own plants and has a bit of a smoke that's rare.

PasturesNew

silvercar wrote: »

With no kids to support, you can afford to buy your own!

Only if you earn a lot. Single living is uber-expensive. You're paying "couples prices" for 90% of everything.

Kids don't cost a lot - parents spend a lot on kids then say kids are expensive.

Generali

vivatifosi wrote: »

Where's the harm to others in cannabis? That you force feed them chocolate when you've got the munchies? I'm sure it's from smoke, but that struck me as quite high.

-Mental health issues can be triggered through cannabis use.
-Can be addictive
-Smoking
-Loss of motivation in life as a whole
-Memory loss
-Can aggravate the effects of other drugs, notably alcohol

tomterm8

PasturesNew wrote: »

Then it goes to the next level. People who think that drinking a bottle of wine in a day, or with one meal, is normal/acceptable.

Alcoholics!!

There's a large difference between people who have one glass of wine on occasion compared to people who drink a bottle of wine a day.

And there's also a difference between people who drink a bottle of wine a day and alcoholics who may drink a lot less or a lot more than that.

I don't drink much at all, maybe three units a year if that.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

PasturesNew wrote: »

As I see it, a lot of the harm is the route to smoking that cannabis. e.g. crime to pay for the cannabis + the drugs gangs/violence/slavery that gets the cannabis from the fields into the spliff. It pays for guns, that do bigger crimes too. All "the hidden cost of cannabis" that most don't see/know about or admit to.

If one person grows their own plants and has a bit of a smoke that's rare.

I think you can make that argument for most illegal drugs.

Hence why legalisation, or at least decriminalisation, makes an awful lot of sense.

If your average addict could get a prescription for heroin without all the nasty street dealer adulterants, and clean needles, from their local GP, crime and disease would plummet.

Likewise all other drugs...

tomterm8

vivatifosi wrote: »

Where's the harm to others in cannabis?

It honestly depends. If you're talking about old fashioned cannabis there probably isn't much harm to others beyond passive smoking (there is harm from the policy of criminalizing cannabis).

The more modern skunk type of cannabis can really do a lot of damage to you mentally, and this does have an impact on others.

hjd

PasturesNew wrote: »

Brilliant, I'm only 6th

I do get annoyed these days when everywhere there are references to "have a glass of wine". I don't like the taste of wine .... and for wine drinkers they don't notice the "drip, drip, drip" of promoting it.

e.g. house programmes: "That's great, you're buying this house. Let's have a glass of wine". "Fabulous, now all you need to do is open a bottle of wine to celebrate".

e.g. questions on the forum - "what present shall I give/take?" "..... bottle of wine...."

The world never used to be like this!

It used to be that if you invited a friend over, or a neighbour in, you'd put the kettle on. If you called round to a neighbours and were invited in, or you dropped in on a friend (pre-planned or ad hoc), the kettle would go on. Nobody mentioned wine; nobody had wine.

Bunch of boozers everywhere these days!!

Then it goes to the next level. People who think that drinking a bottle of wine in a day, or with one meal, is normal/acceptable.

Alcoholics!!

Even a lot of food programmes cover "what wine to drink with this pie/chips we just cooked...." No - pie and chips is a Coke!

Not everyone's real life is like that!
I have maybe one glass of wine a week, occasionally two.
I would never drink a Coke, think it tastes disgusting (and it's full of sugar)! Same with all fizzy drinks - I stick to water and the occasional tea.
Nobody in my world goes on about wine all the time.

zagubov

Generali wrote: »

-Mental health issues can be triggered through cannabis use.
-Can be addictive
-Smoking
-Loss of motivation in life as a whole
-Memory loss
-Can aggravate the effects of other drugs, notably alcohol

A 60s pop icon who I think had smoked for decades reckoned it was a full six months after he stopped smoking that he could say for sure it had worn off/ wasn't affecting him.

Schizophrenia's more common in long-term smokers, and the smoke is more carcinogenic than tobacco.

Many of these recreational drugs were used as psychotomimetics, drugs to model psychoses for testing antipsychotic drugs.

PasturesNew

tomterm8 wrote: »

I don't drink much at all, maybe three units a year if that.

That's about my max... but it's dropping off. I think the last time I had one unit was over a year ago, when I met a NP in a pub.