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Another public sector pay outrage
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Graham_Devon wrote: »And I do wish the public and private sector weren't at loggerheads in scenarios like this.
The public sector needs the private sector and vice versa. Both work hand in hand in many situations. Both would be nothing without the other.
Very few people get rich out of the public sector. Some ultimately get very rich, but that's the very few.
Many in the public sector put themselves in harms way every day in order to protect, serve, or help others.
Be it a nurse getting a needlestick infection and picking up a nasty virus from a drunken, drugged up idiot shes trying to help. Be it a police officer getting severly injured or killed. Be it a firefighter putting their life at risk to save yours and your family or be it our servicemen, literally offering their lives.....
...Who do you all turn to in your time of need, whether it's being ill, out of a job, at risk of violence or buglary....
....I just don't understand why there is so much hatred against these people. I don't see as much hatred for the public sector, bar those on what others see as obscene salaries holding us all to ransom....high up bankers.
All of those who bash the public sector are quite welcome to work within it if it's such a good thing. But the simple fact is, it's not, hence you stick to the private sector.
I must admit I only ventured into here to point out that the vast majority of workers in the company that I work for (not in WHS or packing punnets) am not getting a payrise. And I received a fairly sharp response that all public sector workers perform more important jobs.
The majority of workers don't get rich in the private sector either.
And yes, many public sector workers put themselves in danger for the rest of the population. I am very grateful for that. Private workplaces aren't accident-free either.
I've no interest in 'bashing the public sector' I have worked in local government and NHS deparments. I also have no interest in being 'bashed' because I happen to currently work in the private sector.0 -
An estimated 400-1,200 patients died as a result of poor care over the 50 months between January 2005 and March 2009 at Stafford hospital, a small district general hospital in Staffordshire
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/feb/06/mid-staffs-hospital-scandal-guide
People die in hospital surprise surprise.
The fact that many would have been acutely ill or suffering from chronic illness before they were admitted may have a bearing on the outcome.
Nice wide estimate. Sample size for some of the extrapolations in one of the original reports were small.
What happened to the chap who "manged" that hospital?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
The MOD employs more pen pushers (mouse pushers these days? ) than fighting people. Crazy.
That's because there is more intelligence used in the MOD these days. There has to be. The biggest threat today isn't an army coming to invade us. It's terrorism.
We don't just "happen to know" that there could be a bomb cleverly hidden inside a toner cartridge for example. That's those "pen pushers" who are silently saving peoples lives without them even knowing it half the time.
I'll take intelligence over killing people any day of the week.
Didn't expect this level of debate from yourself.0 -
ruggedtoast wrote: »Public sector workers do the most important jobs. Many people in the private sector pack punnets or work for WH Smith.
You are not comparing like with like.
What utter bull. Public sector workers get gold plated pensions, can retire after a fart at fifty, while those in manufacturing, who generate wealth and tax to fund this, pay into pensions continually robbed by government to pay them, expecting us to retire at nearly 70!0 -
Blackbeard_of_Perranporth wrote: »What utter bull.
Everything you wrote after those 3 words certainly was.0 -
The MOD employs more pen pushers (mouse pushers these days? ) than fighting people. Crazy.
I read somewhere that Israeli MOD procurement had something like 400 people. The UK MOD ran in to thousands (tens of?) can't remember the exact figure. Just struck me as a ridiculous comparative number bearing in mind the relative states of readiness."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Souldn't be down to poor care though.grizzly1911 wrote: »People die in hospital surprise surprise.0 -
Blackbeard_of_Perranporth wrote: »What utter bull. Public sector workers get gold plated pensions, can retire after a fart at fifty, while those in manufacturing, who generate wealth and tax to fund this, pay into pensions continually robbed by government to pay them, expecting us to retire at nearly 70!
Well now look here. I've been to university and got a Desmond.
And what do you mean by manufacturing? If you were an engineer you'd be doing very nicely, but if you're one of those fellows that drives the punnets to the packers, or pack the packed punnets on a pallet, it's not surprising you aren't earning too much.0
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