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PCN from PPS at Hull Port - Received NTK - What next?

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  • willberine
    willberine Posts: 69 Forumite
    Sorted, have fired off the initial appeal from the sticky thread and will wait with baited breath for the response......
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    There is no point even considering popla right now as you don't have a popla code. You need to make complaints to the dvla and bpa saying that this company has not sent you a NtK so you can appeal. I think that letter you have is a reminder, so they have jumped to that. Unless it says differently then appeal is to late according to them.

    It would be helpful if you put a scan of the letter up, just redact personal info, and host it on tinypic.com, then place links here minus the http://www part of the link so you can place it here
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • willberine
    willberine Posts: 69 Forumite
    edited 12 March 2014 at 2:35PM
    tinypic.com/r/29ogz0k/8

    The letter is at the above link....let me know what you think.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    willberine wrote: »

    http://tinypic.com/r/29ogz0k/8

    The letter is at the above link....let me know what you think.

    Will take a look for you
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    That doesn't look like a notice to keeper, they should have sent that before this. You haven't received that so you should make complaints about this company.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • willberine
    willberine Posts: 69 Forumite
    Definitely not had anything else from them.

    I have sent a 1st soft appeal to them via email already - I hope this will not hinder my chances. It was sent as the RK followin the template in the sticky.

    I assume compain to both the DVLA contact and BPA contact in the sticky thread?

    What sort of wording would be good to use?
  • da_rule
    da_rule Posts: 3,618 Forumite
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    I would say that this is a notice to the keeper (albeit a poorly drafted one). The reason I say this is because it only acknowledges that a notice to the person in charge of the vehicle (i.e. a notice to driver) was issued. Other reminders that I have come across refer to the date when the first notice to keeper was being issued. Does the back of the PCN make any reference to POPLA or the Protection of Freedoms Act? I would also say that if it is, as I believe it to be, a notice to keeper then it is non-compliant with the POFA (specifically Paragraph 8(f) Schedule 4) in that you have only been given 14 days to pay/identify the driver rather than 28 days.
  • willberine
    willberine Posts: 69 Forumite
    That is exactly how I interpreted it da_rule, thanks for your opinion.

    There is no mention of POFA on the back.....
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    I don't think so , a notice to keeper would be worded as such, and I can't see anything like that. But importantly the charge is to much as £130 is above the bpa CoP . I am pretty sure they will write back saying to late to appeal. I will be amazed if they give a popla code
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • ampersand
    ampersand Posts: 9,672 Forumite
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    wilberine - both stroma and da_rule are strong and expert advisors on these threads, so it seems to me that their disparate interpretations are even stronger evidence re: confusion as to what this paper tripe is for.

    A re-send, perhaps including 'conflicting expert opinion'...?
    -and to SteveC@britishparking.co.uk of course.
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