Been sanctioned on JSA any options left

samsmoot

jobseeking_help wrote: »

Dear 111222

If it is a Work Programme sanction ....
The guaranteed way to make a WP sanction disppear is to state that you could not attend because you were ill. Go into the Jobcentre and complete a JSA28 to cover the period when you were supposed to have attended. This is the form to note absence due to sickness. Make sure the period is less than 14 days or your claim will be closed - you are allowed up to 14 days absence due to sickness on JSA. Any more than that and you will have to claim ESA.

You are allowed 2 periods of sickness within any rolling 12 mths so if you've already completed 2 other JSA28 forms within the last 12 mths that will also close your claim.

Then complete a DR7 to appeal the sanction. Ensure that a copy of the JSA28 is attached to the DR7.


Good luck

Fantastic post!

samsmoot

missapril75 wrote: »

Excellent advice. Tie up and delay the appeals process for those with a proper argument to be heard by appealing "even if in the wrong" and because it costs nothing.

Is it any wonder the government is now considering charging for appeals?

Well done for helping the government do its dirty work.

The government's dirty work goes on regardless of what some anonymous punter on a website says. I don't believe I carry that much influence in Westminster.


The point is that if you have no money (or food) and it may be possible to get it, then why wouldn't you? It's all very legal and allowable and it's the right way to do things. Being in the wrong or not is irrelevant if the Decision was unlawful - which it may have been - unless appealed you'll never know.


Real life analogy: Two people received Fixed Penalty Notices for littering under exactly the same circumstances. One pays the £75, the other tells the Council to get lost. The difference? The non-payer examined their ticket (or rather I did) and found it was incorrectly completed. How? It was missing a tick in a box.


An offence being committed means nothing without the proper paperwork - and that also applies to benefit decisions.

samsmoot

ArtoDeeto wrote: »

NO you are f*ck*d - you probably should have turned up for the interview.

There you go! Apparently all you need to solve your starvation problem is a time machine!

samsmoot

OK, 111222, after having a think about your dilemma this city boy seems to lack any great suggestions for free food in the countryside, but one thing you could do is to have a look on YouTube for some ideas on what free food you might want to try gathering and eating. I don't suggest you become a wild man foraging in the forest but from what I've seen there's a surprising amount of nutritious edibles about. Nettles and thistles are abundant and will keep you alive but there's a lot more - quite eye-opening really, the variety of wild growing yet nutritious food.


I watched a riveting hour of an American woodsman type and his mate gathering and preparing wild food but I guess there will be UK related material on there too.

samsmoot

And pigeons.

speedyturtle

If you still cant get anywhere than police station might be a good option as they always keep plenty of food there

busy_mom_2

jobseeking_help wrote: »

Dear 111222

If it is a Work Programme sanction ....
The guaranteed way to make a WP sanction disppear is to state that you could not attend because you were ill. Go into the Jobcentre and complete a JSA28 to cover the period when you were supposed to have attended. This is the form to note absence due to sickness. Make sure the period is less than 14 days or your claim will be closed - you are allowed up to 14 days absence due to sickness on JSA. Any more than that and you will have to claim ESA.

You are allowed 2 periods of sickness within any rolling 12 mths so if you've already completed 2 other JSA28 forms within the last 12 mths that will also close your claim.

Then complete a DR7 to appeal the sanction. Ensure that a copy of the JSA28 is attached to the DR7.


Good luck

Thats really good advice if the person has already has had two periods of sickness, his claim will then close from the first day of sickness and he wil have to make a new claim, real good advice that one!! Real long potential overpayment that! Not to mention also possibly an overpayment of HB and CT!

If he hasn't had his two periods and needs them later on then what is he to do?

sniggings

busy_mom wrote: »

Thats really good advice if the person has already has had two periods of sickness, his claim will then close from the first day of sickness and he wil have to make a new claim, real good advice that one!! Real long potential overpayment that! Not to mention also possibly an overpayment of HB and CT!

If he hasn't had his two periods and needs them later on then what is he to do?

the main problem that needs solving is the OP needs food, if he should need to use his sick days later in the year, he can follow the rules and claim ESA, more paper work and more money the tax payer has to fork out, these sanctions are really working aren't they :rotfl:

powerful_Rogue

speedyturtle wrote: »

If you still cant get anywhere than police station might be a good option as they always keep plenty of food there

What a ridiculous suggestion!

missapril75

samsmoot wrote: »

The point is that if you have no money (or food) and it may be possible to get it, then why wouldn't you? It's all very legal and allowable and it's the right way to do things.

The right way, even when in the wrong. That's what you said.

The OP had a four week sanction.

You think an appeal is going to get money within that time-frame?