Finding a job following dismissal for gross misconduct

Shazza122

Fruit....I know it will be hard but I've taken a lot of hope from the folk on here that have been in a similar position and got work after it.

paulineb_2

fruitedeli wrote: »

If there are two candidates, the slightly more qualified one has a gross misconduct past, your subconscious mind would try to perceive the other candidate in better light.

It's like two women being rude to someone. You're more likely to go against the ugly woman, but try to make excuses or justify the actions of the better looking one. It happens, and there are TV programmes documenting this fact.

I think you are talking absolute cobblers. When I was interviewed almost straight after I was sacked I was absolutely honest about what had happened to me. I didnt get the job but they were impressed with me and I was offered sessional work with a project nearer home, I got agency work during the summer and the project near my home had a sister project that I got sessional work with and then a full time job. I didnt hide anything.

If every single employer who had an application for someone who had been sacked for gross misconduct didnt offer them a job, every single person who had ever been sacked for misconduct or gross misconduct would never work again.

That is not the way it is. People who are sacked do work again. It might take people some time and there might be a few nos along the way, but lots of people who are dismissed find future work.

paulineb_2

Also Id like to say that the fact I had ten years of work history without a verbal warning before I ran into that bunch of fruitloops spoke for itself.

Even if someone does make a monumental boo boo, it can often be after an extended period of work history without a single problem.

And speaking as someone who has managed staff in two jobs, Ive known managers that are absolutely sack happy and seen people been put on final written warnings for totally ridiculous stuff, including one girl who clearly wasnt working out in the role, but my manager at the time was walking around making comments like she'll never work again.

Not everyone who is actually sacked for gross misconduct even if they have made a mistake in the workplace deserves to be sacked in the first place, the employer isnt always correct in the decisions it makes.

sensibleadvice

fruitedeli wrote: »

If there are two candidates, the slightly more qualified one has a gross misconduct past, your subconscious mind would try to perceive the other candidate in better light.

It's like two women being rude to someone. You're more likely to go against the ugly woman, but try to make excuses or justify the actions of the better looking one. It happens, and there are TV programmes documenting this fact.

That's true, why take a risk if the difference is marginal? But what if the candidate with GM is much better and has the skills and experience the employer wants?

morganedge

paulineb wrote: »

including one girl who clearly wasnt working out in the role, but my manager at the time was walking around making comments like she'll never work again.

lol, it's so ridiculous.
When I was sacked for Gross missconduct, my stupid boss was also insinuating that I 'wouldn't work again'. I guess, implying that he'd give me an awful reference?!

I had to laugh. I simply deleted that whole job from my CV, and replaced it with a pretend job in a friends business (which I was obviously able to get my friend to give me a good (albeit fake) reference).
It's very easy to omit information from you history, and in doing so, they'd never be able to find out that I was sacked from 'xyz' company.

I'm not necessarily condoning doing what I did, but clueless bosses who think they've got you by the short and curly's grind my gears, lol

Shazza122

Got appt on Thursday to register with temp agency. Told them what happened and although they said they couldn't put me forward for jobs in my previous industry they would be happy to look at other areas I could work in...

monty-doggy

There is life after a dismissal. Anyone who thinks someone who made a mistake doesn't deserve a second chance is an idiot. In this country even murderers get second chances! You shouldn't be condemned because you were caught making a mistake! How many more serious things go on unnoticed???

You will come. Out of the other side of this much stronger. Take it from all of us who know first hand xx

Shazza122

Thanks Monty....just feels like a living nightmare at moment :-(

Shazza122

Four hours sleep and wake up to that feeling of being punched in the stomach....panic, fear, terror.....does this feeling ever go away?!?

bugslet

fruitedeli wrote: »

If there are two candidates, the slightly more qualified one has a gross misconduct past, your subconscious mind would try to perceive the other candidate in better light.
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But everyone is different and I run the company in a fairly idiosyncratic way ( very high personeel retention, so I'm doing something right). As I said before, you look at the whole picture and then decide.

Shazza122 wrote: »

Four hours sleep and wake up to that feeling of being punched in the stomach....panic, fear, terror.....does this feeling ever go away?!?

yep, six months time, you'll look back on this and wonder why you worried so much; unfortunately in the meantime it's just a stage you go through. Deep breaths!