Advice for 18 year old.

prowla

Has the bike now got its MOT?

mark5

Mark_Mark wrote: »

Not true, the Police National Computer holds MOT information.

who's going to check the police national computer for this information?

The information is in the system but it wont come to light because the police wont check, the CPS wont check and the court will only check his DVLA driving licence details, nothing else.

specialboy

Mark_Mark wrote: »

Why does it matter, no MOT is an absolute offence. However as he was on his way home he has a defence.

It matters because if it failed on an something like a bald tyre then he would have no defence for riding it home after it failed.

Mark_Mark

specialboy wrote: »

It matters because if it failed on an something like a bald tyre then he would have no defence for riding it home after it failed.

Defence to what?

The defence to no mot is you were taking it back from the test centra.

specialboy

Mark_Mark wrote: »

Defence to what?

The defence to no mot is you were taking it back from the test centra.

If your vehicle fails the mot on a bald tyre then you cant ride it back home from the test, therefore you would have no defence at all. Even if in the unlikely event the OP's son did get done for no mot he would only be looking at a £60 fine.

Aretnap

He'd still have a defence to riding without an MOT. He might have been guilty of riding with a bald tyre, but that's a different offence. It would also depend on whether the tyre actually was illegal - the fact that it failed its MOT doesn't automatically make it so. MOT testers aren't infallible after all, and I've even heard that some dodgy ones deliberately fail vehicles on dubious points so they can charge for repairs (!).

This is getting highly, erm, "theological" though - he's very unlikely to be charged with riding with no MOT, and even less likely to be charged with riding with a dodgy tyre.

TrickyWicky

feelingblue wrote: »

My 18 (just) year old son is a really great kid

All others are not? - What about those stuck at home having no life looking after disabled parents etc?

feelingblue wrote: »

Sadly he is also a teen

but he's still a great kid right?

feelingblue wrote: »

and thus 'forgot' about his MOT renewal.

With so many apps with calenders and reminders how did that happen?

feelingblue wrote: »

Anyway, he was caught doing 52 in 30 and quite rightly deserves to be taught a lesson with fine and points.

So why are you here trying to find a way out of it for him?

He chose to speed and risk other peoples lives. Just because it wasn't near you doesn't mean it's not important. Someone could have been killed by him.

feelingblue wrote: »

He was gutted but realises that he should have pulled over, checked the time and rang work if he was going to be late. Lesson learnt.

You did say he's a great kid right? - I knew before even having a licence that it's not lawful to speed as does everyone else. If he chose to do it then he has no-one but himself to blame and must take the consequences. He may be your special little darling but that doesn't make him any less of a risk than anyone else on the road. Why is he so great again?

feelingblue wrote: »

It seems so unfair especially as he is trying hard at college to embark on a career and although he made a serious mistake a fine and points would have taught him a valuable lesson.

It's not unfair at all. He chose to risk other peoples lives by over 20mph. Thats LETHAL.

Bald tyre too? Great kid? Seriously? Sounds like some people don't live in the real world :mad:

Mark_Mark

specialboy wrote: »

If your vehicle fails the mot on a bald tyre then you cant ride it back home from the test, therefore you would have no defence at all. Even if in the unlikely event the OP's son did get done for no mot he would only be looking at a £60 fine.

That's not what the law says.

Mark_Mark

mark5 wrote: »

who's going to check the police national computer for this information?

The information is in the system but it wont come to light because the police wont check, the CPS wont check and the court will only check his DVLA driving licence details, nothing else.

Well when you check to see who the registered keeper is (which they've already done) guess what comes up on the same page?

Are you trying to be smart or is the pnc something you know anything about?

feelingblue

Thanks for the helpful replies ..... the MOT was rebooked for the following Tues (this happened on Sat morn) and yes passed. A headlight wasn't aligned and chain needed tightening (this is what his dad was going to do). He is at college and has part time job earning between £20 and £40 per week. There are no buses to our nearest town (8 miles away) where he has his job. A lesson has been hard learned - no way will he be in a position for a long time to save for insurance for a car. Thanks again for the replies which have been helpful.