Likely consequences of unpaid ticket

MarkSwansea

I had a parking ticket from LPS for parking in a pay and display car park and recently lost my appeal with POPLA, the fee is £85 what is likely to happen/outcome if i dont not pay this and ignore any correspondence?? Any advice and experience would be much appreciated

thanks

nicechap

Can you post copies of your appeal and their evidence and the POPLA rejection, redacting all personal information.

bod1467

To answer the specific question ... the POPLA decision is binding only on the PPC and not the motorist - you still don't HAVE to pay it. The PPC would then need to raise small claims action against you (and win the case) to MAKE you pay.

The reality is that you'd get lots of letters from debt recovery companies (known as threatograms) and then it may just die away. But court action is always a possibility for up to 6 years after the date of the PCN.

MarkSwansea

Thanks for your response,
What is the likely cost to be if they make me pay by small claims action or court???

Hot_Bring

MarkSwansea wrote: »

Thanks for your response,
What is the likely cost to be if they make me pay by small claims action or court???

Around £200 but it does vary on a case by case basis. That said, if you take forum advice ( should you get court papers ) then you would most likely win. You clearly made a mistake with your POPLA appeal - they are easy to win so make sure you don' t make a mistake if you get court papers.

MarkSwansea

Thanks for the response

So can i appeal again with POPLA or how would i appeal the court letter, there are so many threads on the forum im not sure which ones relate to my parking ticket??

Is it too late to contact the land owner & how would i obtain this information on who is the land owner/contact details

thanks again

kirkbyinfurnesslad_2

No you cant

Have you actually received a "court letter/court claim/letter before action", or are you just speculating

If you want to find landowner details i suggest you do a land registry search, it costs around £4.00

Redx

normally you can only appeal once to popla, no second chances for you but if you were not the driver you could name the driver (for a postal pcn , not a windscreen pcn) and then they could deal with it at popla due to the new pcn in their name, using a better appeal than you did

as for finding landowners, not always easy unless you pay the land registry a fee and find out, so google it , look for previous threads naming the landowner or managing agents, ask any tenants who they pay rent to , etc

do not expect some easily found list of every landowner for every piece of ground in the country , they like to hide their assets behinds fronts and aliases and managing agents , many are owned by pension companies or financial institutions or big retailers

easy it isnt , but the more you dig the more you may find out

not sure how you missed this NEWBIES thread as it tells you everything you need to know about these pcn,s , debt collectors etc

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822

if you really wish to speculate on any future proceeedings, read this thread https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4896206 as they are currently going through it with PE

Coupon-mad

MarkSwansea wrote: »

Thanks for the response

So can i appeal again with POPLA or how would i appeal the court letter, there are so many threads on the forum im not sure which ones relate to my parking ticket??

Is it too late to contact the land owner & how would i obtain this information on who is the land owner/contact details

thanks again

Have a look at the sticky by Crabman which has all the permanent info & help links. You'd want to read the small claims part of the NEWBIES thread, and the LBCCC thread, and the Successful Complaints thread (and if this was a retail car park, aim for the Store Managers first).

Have you actually got Northampton Court papers? If so, acknowledge them and state you will defend in full then let us know where you are with it. You do need to read the small claims links & stickies first though.

MarkSwansea

Thanks again for all your help/suggestions

Cut a long story short i stopped at a Pay & Display car park (waste land) to get my two sons (age 6 & 2yrs) but had no change so parked up & headed for shop to get change to purchase ticket, on my return 6 mins later i returned with change & no ice creams or purchases to find a guy taking a photo of my car & place a notice on my windscreen, i explained my situation & showing him i had no pruchases & pointing out my two young sons thats what took me 6 mins, but he was not interested & ignored me except for saying explain it to them! I took photos of my clock and dashboard for time i returned to car sent to them with also photos of my 2 sons from that day with full explination and they requested that i sent in the ticket that i purchased after i obtained change before they can look into it further, i explained we were all distraught & wasnt advised or think to do this so they said the guy recorded he kindly advised me to purchase a ticket with my change (LIES!!) put my appeal to popla & had this back two months later

(Appellant)
-v-
Local Parking Security Limited (Operator)
The Operator issued parking charge notice number arising
out of the presence , , of
a vehicle with registration mark .
The Appellant appealed against liability for the parking charge.
The Assessor considered the evidence of both parties and determined
that the appeal be refused.
The Assessor’s reasons are as set out.
In order to avoid any further action by the operator, payment of the
£85 parking charge should be made within 14 days.
Details of how to pay will appear on previous correspondence from the
operator.
10 February 2014
Reasons for the Assessor’s Determination
It is the Operator’s case that a parking charge notice was correctly issued,
giving the reason as: ‘Parking without displaying a valid ticket’. The Operator
submits that a parking charge is now due in accordance with the clearly
displayed terms of parking.
The Appellant does not dispute that the terms of parking were clearly
displayed.
It is the Appellant’s case that he briefly left the car park in order to obtain
change, but returned to find the operative had already issued a parking
charge notice to his vehicle.
Any requirement that a motorist display a valid pay and display ticket must
include an implied grace period granted to the motorist in order to obtain the
ticket. The motorist must obtain a ticket as soon as reasonably possible.
Although I sympathise, I do not find that leaving a pay and display car park to
obtain change constitutes paying for parking as soon as reasonable possible.
By leaving her vehicle unattended, I find that the Appellant was ‘parked’ and
so parked without displaying a valid ticket.
I find that, by failing to display a valid ticket, the Appellant became liable for
a parking charge notice, in accordance with the terms of parking displayed.
Accordingly, I refuse the appeal.

What shall i do now?? thanks again

kirkbyinfurnesslad_2

Right so please answer the question ive asked previously

Have you actually received a "court letter/court claim/letter before action", or are you just speculating

If you want to find landowner details i suggest you do a land registry search, it costs around £4.00